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To: combjelly who wrote (22668)	12/16/2000 9:43:22 PM
From: semiconeng	Respond to of 275872

Sure, if the P4 can scale to 2.5GHz or 3GHz in 130nm, then it could be a good chip. But we are talking about something that can only be speculated on. It is just as reasonable to speculate on a pony chip running at about the same frequencies at 130nm, it very well may happen. Sorry, I was less than impressed with the P4 running briefly at 2GHz on a 180nm process, a Tbird might have been able to do the same. -----True, in my opinion, 180nm P858 Process never reached it's full potential because it was rushed into manufacturing due to pressure from AMD. If you recall,Katmai, was running out of steam at 600MHz on the 0.25u P856 Process, so intel had no choice. In contrast, because of the need to incorporate Copper, much more design engineering effort has gone into P860 than P858. Trust me on this one.... I've been following "EE Times" about the new Intel process, it looks really good. It will be interesting to see if Intel can move it to mass production on the timetable it says, and whether or not it's public dissing of SOI proves to be another mistake. -----Ya know, I worked with some of that SOI Stuff, and that layer was so prone to cracking, that several of the process steps had to have very tight controls, in order to maintaing reliability. SOI Cracks = no more insulator = dead die. Not a bad choice for low volume, but too expensive for High Volume. JMHO. Intel has great engineers, they have proven it time and again. The question is whether Barrett should be shot or hanged, though. Ropes are re-useable, but not as sure... Thanks..... My vote was for attaching someone's limbs to horses and pulling apart (JUST KIDDING). Semi