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To: gao seng who wrote (117114)	12/17/2000 10:32:47 AM
From: dvdw©	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

With Florida precincts firmly under the control of partisan officials, the issue of dimpled chads seems to have taken a fast track off everyones radar screen post election. For good reason me thinks, as Rush recently pointed out that the only way he was able to create a dimpled chad was by stacking more than one ballot at a time into the mechanism. This fact casts doubt on the precinct captains and wether or not there was a bit of chicanery going on. Like folks being given two, three or even four ballots, hence the preponderance of evidence suggests that Precincts where Loyalty was ranked high, statisticly produced the dimpled undervotes. Coincidence or just another smoking gun for why election reform needs to take place? We need state of the art voting, which includes voice,photo or fingerprint, ID, with on line check in, voter rolls need to be matched on the input and output side. One way of doing this would be to have a private agency take a digital picture of registered voters, then when the voter goes to the polls their picture comes up and the supervisor checks it against the face, this system is not fraud proof either but the fraud points have their own checks and balances which cannot be discussed here.

To: gao seng who wrote (117114)	12/17/2000 11:18:31 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

That was part of the outrage, not only in Florida, but nationwide. Discounting for irregularities harming the Republican vote, like multiple ballots in Wisconsin, vote buying schemes, and suppression of the military vote, we can easily contrive our own scenario of not only electoral but popular vote win. In a razor thin election, there are plausible scenarios galore about what the final count should have been. Ranting about "the will of the people" in such a circumstance is unseemly........