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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: bela_ghoulashi who wrote (5117)12/17/2000 11:47:49 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
I agree. We are very limited creatures, and even the most intelligent among us cannot possibly foresee all the ramifications of all their actions. We do indeed serve purposes we may be unaware of. If I believed in Devils I would think Chris was serving one- since he is so good at turning people off of God. Now I am sure he sees his actions as completely justified- and that his God doesn't care that you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar- but clearly folks can differ on that.

When you say "the best thing for us to do is the thing we feel the least like doing" I would argue that is not true. Because ultimately you do things because you feel like doing them. I think what you mean is some things would be more pleasant in the short term, but for long term reasons we have to do things that bring us short term discomfort. I would like to stay in bed with my electric blanket (I never had one of these before- they are WONDERFUL, MARVELOUS- heaven is an electric blanket, but I digress) but I know that if I don't get up and get my children to school eventually social services will come a'calling on me. Now while my electric blanket is indeed paradise- I know that social services is negative paradise squared- so I do something unpleasant (getting up) to avoid something even more unpleasant. I think that's just the way humans work, or don't work.

I think we are very close to predestined to do all the things we do. After all we are built in a certain way. Our brains are wired in a certain way. We input all the data from before we are born in a certain way. Things happen to us based on where we are, and who we are born to. Of course it is impossible to KNOW all the causes- so the end result to us is the same as free will- but any omniscient being would know exactly what was going to happen. That is one of my problems with omniscient beings.