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To: minnow68 who wrote (22708)	12/17/2000 7:11:59 PM
From: fyodor_	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Mike: Those benchmarks show that the P4 would need about an 85% clock speed advantage over the Athlon just to match the Athlon in my application. You might be able to get a lot of that back, possibly even enough to make it worth it, if you optimize your code for SSE(2). That is, optimized SSE(2) COMBINED with the memory bandwidth could make it worth it for you. Probably it would be better to wait for Palomino, though... -fyo

To: minnow68 who wrote (22708)	12/17/2000 7:29:37 PM
From: Charles R	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Mike, <That is an astonishing ratio. That means a 3.0 Ghz P4 would not be as fast as a 1.7 Ghz Athlon for my purposes. Wow.> I am surprised at the disparity but since I haven't heard the benchmark you mention, I have no idea for the reasoning behind it. The main problem for P4 is its performance (or lack there of) in mainstream applications. Majority of business desktops come loaded with Microsoft Office, Internet Explorer/Navigator, Acrobat Reader, Virus Checker from Norton or McAfee, and a mail client. It is hard to tell people with this kind of application need to go for P4 above PIII or Athlon. Chuck P.S.: Someone asked me if I had my virus checker actively checking my files all the time on my PMMX233. I have been playing with the settings of late and I see that live protection can have significant impact on performance. Based on what I see with virus checker going full blast all the time, I would say a good system for me should be 400MHz Celeron or better with 64MB (prefarably 500MHz with 128MB)