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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: aknahow who wrote (117495)	12/18/2000 2:37:58 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 769670

That was my point George. I hear a lot being made of Gore's winning the popular vote. But how do we know who really won since all those undervotes and over votes were "never counted" using Gorelogic? JLA

To: aknahow who wrote (117495)	12/18/2000 2:58:31 PM
From: Constant Reader	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

All California ballots are counted and are part of the final totals certified by the Secretary of State. Nothing counted has NOT been reported. Those absentee ballots (largely turned in on election day itself) tracked the statewide results in California and made no appreciable difference in either candidate's percentage.

To: aknahow who wrote (117495)	12/18/2000 3:09:32 PM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Sorry, George. Several GOPers on this thread earlier made claims that the national absentee ballots would close the gap in the national popular vote. No such thing happened. In fact, Gore's lead has increased since election day. Which, of course, brings us back to Florida where--my read of the reality has Gore with more votes than Bush--we'll soon learn the actual vote, no thanks to the Bush Campaign and the U.S. Supreme Court. What'll likely happen with the media/historian recount is all votes will be tallied into the kinds of votes they are: * discernable votes for either candidate * one, two or three-cornered chads * dimpled ballots * pregnant ballots * clear undervotes where no preference was marked * overvotes where more than one candidate was marked * vote totals from optical scanners vs. punch-card or other types of voting methodoly. So what'll happen is all of this will get added up and the media will report either/or results. Ultimately, the reader of the final tallies will determine who won and who didn't. However, as a footnote, when I do my personal count of what gets reported, I'm gonna consider the butterfly ballot. All together, it remains my belief--until proven otherwise--that Gore got more votes than did Bush in Florida. It's just that Bush was better politically connected in Florida's statewide politics and among five members of the U.S. Supreme Court which managed to reverse its reputation by its decision in favor of Bush. Additionally, for what it matters, among those who didn't vote, more than two-thirds would have voted for Gore. And before my debate opponents on this thread lambast me for writing bringing up those who didn't vote, don't forget your man Dick Cheney who you just elected vice president, failed to vote 14 times out of the past 16 elections. So if you're gonna discredit those who didn't vote, don't forget to add in your man Cheney. Add it together? What we get is an illegitmate president George W. Bush and an illegitimate vice president Dick Cheney.