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To: Mark Fowler who wrote (112952)12/18/2000 5:13:02 PM
From: LTK007  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 164684
 
GS just gave a buy recommend on CNBC for AMZN--translation,for the accute person "sell sell sell":) max



To: Mark Fowler who wrote (112952)12/18/2000 5:33:46 PM
From: H James Morris  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
Mark, hello! what's wrong with this story? The days of Internet companies chasing revenue growth without never making a profit are gone.
Now, any idiot can read below and figure out Tern is in trouble.
Btw
Where's the General (Custer)?
>. For the 9 months ended 9/30/00, revenues totalled $276.7M, up from $58.3M. Net loss rose 98% to $89.2M.
Now the update.
>NEW YORK, Dec 18 (Reuters) - Shares of Terayon Communication Systems Inc. (NASDAQ: TERN) plunged nearly 60 percent on Monday after the maker of high-speed communications gear warned of a steep loss and sharply lower than expected revenue due to several order cancellations.

The stock was down $8-13/32, at $5-5/32 in heavy afternoon trading on the Nasdaq, where it was the No. 1 percentage loser on the day. The shares fell as low as $5-1/8, their lowest point since October 1998.

With Monday's fall, Terayon shares are now down more than 96 percent from their high of $142-5/8 in March.

Before the market opened, the Santa Clara, Calif., company said in a statement that, excluding charges, it expects to record a fourth-quarter loss of $34 million to $36 million, or 46 cents to 49 cents per share, on revenue of $60 million to $63 million.

The loss could be as high as 74 cents to 77 cents a share if the company incurs $20 million in charges related to the discontinuation of a cable modem product line, Terayon added.

Wall Street analysts on average had been expecting a profit of 6 cents per share on revenue of $130.3 million, according to research firm First Call/Thomson Financial. A year earlier it had earned 2 cents a share on revenue of $38.7 million.

The company said the shortfall is principally due to the cancellation of orders late in the quarter and an unexpected slowdown in the growth of existing and new customers' orders.

Terayon said its expenses and inventory had increased in anticipation of revenue more in line with the rapid growth rates it had been experiencing earlier this year. Now, with the economy softening, it said it believes its customers -- which include cable television and high-speed Internet access providers -- have sufficient inventory to handle slower expansion rates on their systems.

Terayon said the poor outlook will stretch into next year, forcing it to cut its internal operating plan for 2001.

The company is not alone in its difficulties.

Adtran Inc. (NASDAQ: ADTN), another maker of network-access equipment, warned last week its fourth-quarter profits will miss Wall Street expectations. Its shares were down 10 percent Monday.

Hurting the sector has been a slowdown in purchases by corporations and in sales to the dominant local telephone companies, which may be delaying purchases until the new year.

Terayon Chief Executive Officer Zaki Rakib said the company will reorganize itself and enact cost-cutting measures beginning in the first quarter as a result of the earnings outlook. Additional details of the plan were not immediately available.



To: Mark Fowler who wrote (112952)12/18/2000 6:15:41 PM
From: H James Morris  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
Mark, please don't tell me you handed off your Yhoo shares to this poor, poor greater fool.:-(((
>12/18/00 3:05 PM ET

When 32-year-old David Gennrich left the rough-and-tumble world of floor trading at the Chicago Board Options Exchange to trade stocks with a handful of partners from a Chicago office, the booming bull market was his oyster.
On Aug. 31, just a few months later, the Lake County, Ill., Sheriff's Department found Gennrich dead in his Porsche Boxster, the car aflame along a Route 176 service road and a gunshot wound to Gennrich's head. In late October, the county sheriff and medical examiner both officially classified his death a suicide.

While a complete portrait of Gennrich's situation remains elusive, people familiar with the trading at his firm, Marlin Securities, said he was distraught over losses incurred trading Yahoo! (YHOO:Nasdaq - news) shares, losses that he concealed from his partners. (Similar behavior in 1999 got him suspended from the CBOE floor.)

To label Gennrich's demise a microcosm of the bull market's collapse would be a stretch. But his death did roughly coincide with an end to an investment landscape that helped define the incredible stock market run of the late '90s. Gennrich was among scores of professional traders who saw trading their own accounts as a lucrative alternative to the daily grind. Their ranks were filled, as well, with civilians-turned-daytraders who had left their 9-to-5 jobs, mortgaged their homes, and, if allowed, would've likely used beloved family pets as margin collateral.

Among the trash heap of the 2000 are two hallmarks of the old market: Big momentum in the market and the dominance of the individual investor. We are now in a market short on momentum and firmly back in the hands of institutions. It began in late March, when tech stocks began to crumble and investors who had borrowed money to buy stocks through margin accounts had their loans called in by brokers. That sucked considerable buying power from the individual investor base, and began to shift the balance of power back to institutional investors.

The e-commerce companies that individual investors had jumped into fell precipitously during 2000, roughly 70%, according to a recent study by Mercer Management Consulting. Business-to-business marketplace, consumer commerce portals and application service providers fell about 80% in 2000.

Times have changed. On eBay (EBAY:Nasdaq - news), one erstwhile options trader is auctioning off an Omega Research Tradestation software package for $500 that seems less useful these days. Meanwhile, leading online brokerage Schwab (SCH:NYSE - news) reported last week a 15% drop in November trading volume.

"Everything investors learned the past few years they should forget," says hedge fund manager Kyle Rosen. "It's now that we're returning to normal from a once-in-a-generation occurrence."

Sean Kelleher, the head of trading at New York discount brokerage Wall St. Access, says he sees retail investors heading back to full-service brokerage firms for professional advice. That's a sure sign things have changed.

Yet even the pros are dealing with some new factors -- such as the Securities and Exchange Commission's Regulation Fair Disclosure -- that will keep them guessing as well in 2001.

"This year has been murderous," Rosen says. "Lucent (LU:NYSE - news), Home Depot (HD:NYSE - news), Qualcomm (QCOM:Nasdaq - news), one after another chopped in half. How do you operate in either [last year's or this year's] environment?"

That violent swing from 1999 to 2000, Kelleher and Rosen surmise, is what's driving investors back to their loving, if costly, embrace of full-service brokers and professional money managers. "The money will go back to mutual funds," he says.

The absence of daytraders and hyperactive individual investors has shown some results in the second half of 2000. "You're not going to have the volatility. There's nobody running up stocks like Yahoo! to $250," Kelleher says. "The problem was that in 1997, '98 and '99, you just had to be long the market. Now the problem is the growth investors don't see growth and the value investors don't see value."



To: Mark Fowler who wrote (112952)12/18/2000 9:46:18 PM
From: Victor Lazlo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
<<Think about it... do you really think Tern deserves a valuation of 150 or 5 dollars? No! >>

Mark, I'm amazed to see you state such a thing. As a trader, you know full well that tern deserves whatever price the market gives it. period.

ps, I wouldn't want to be your accountant- you are trading like a windvane in a hurricane !! <gg>
So did you buy sndk today?

Victor