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To: Ibexx who wrote (90582)	12/20/2000 4:09:09 PM
From: Tom Kearney	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

"I don't believe the economy has slowed that much." Ssssssshhh! The FED might hear you.

To: Ibexx who wrote (90582)	12/20/2000 4:14:22 PM
From: Win-Lose-Draw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

I don't believe the economy has slowed that much. I live in one of the hottest of the tech hotspots, and no doubt about it, things have slowed down considerably. Whether the economy actually contracts, I don't really know, and I find it unlikely we'll actually slide into anything resembling a depression because most people I know are finding other work pretty quickly...but some of them are taking pay cuts in the process. No doubt about it, the economy has slowed very significantly. Next to topple here will be real estate...

To: Ibexx who wrote (90582)	12/20/2000 7:16:47 PM
From: waverider	Respond to of 152472

Yes...but the money flow has been soooooo positive. I don't understand why we didn't hold $90! Dang it!!! I mean right then and there I tripled up on my margin...and now the boss is ah callin'! He wants my money now...but we got negative money flow here I tells him! No matter. We be flat on our ass. Even Aloha bro can't get no surf wax. Hangin' Nine LOL!!!!

To: Ibexx who wrote (90582)	12/22/2000 3:54:50 PM
From: 2brasil	Respond to of 152472

ot-http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/001220/nj_lucent_.html probaly old

To: Ibexx who wrote (90582)	12/22/2000 3:55:05 PM
From: 2brasil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

qcom up well look at that! was down at schwab today heard some sad stories getting around alot of people got wiped out ! regards bruce redherring.com HAIL TO THE CELL BRAZIL For the simplest problem, access, the market offers a relatively easy solution: cell phones. "We've seen huge growth because so many people can't get good fixed-line service," says Michel Levy, the chief operating officer of BCP, one of two São Paulo cell operators. Use of cell phones has more than doubled since 1997, reaching nearly 10 million subscribers nationwide by 2000. Because Brazil was smart enough to implement one standard from the start -- the 1.9-MHz frequency à la Europe -- it will not face the compatibility problems affecting the United States. This will only encourage further cell phone expansion. Cell phone use should continue, even among the lower classes. Operators are offering prepaid phones that don't require a monthly fee. Because prepaid phones allow incoming calls for free (in fact, all incoming cell phone calls in Brazil are free), the margins are tight for cell phone companies -- people wind up using the phone only to receive calls. "But the adoption is booming," says Mr. Levy. This makes for interesting images in Brazil, like the sight of a person living in a shack, yet talking on a cell phone. With this kind of growth and optimism, many experts say that wireless is the true sweet spot for opportunities in Brazil. "I would guess the wireless market has only been penetrated by around 5 percent," says Marcelo Coutinho-Lima, the Brazilian-born director of research of Punto-com. BellSouth, Telefonica, and SBC (NYSE: SBC) have all taken big ownership positions in local cell phone operators. With prepaid cell phones and the emergence of wireless application protocol (WAP) technology, Brazilians without computers could eventually hook up to the Internet. Still, it's unlikely that the vast majority will get near the Web anytime soon. WAP access calls in Brazil are not cheap -- outgoing calls can cost up to $1 a minute. Brazilians who can't afford a PC will probably find WAP beyond their means as well. But if it's true, as analysts say, that the market is becoming saturated for those who can afford hookup amenities, businesses that hope to grow must bring the lower classes online. Some media and technology companies are trying to do just that. Globo.com recently teamed up with a local bank to provide nearly $1 billion in low-interest loans so that people can get computers, software (Globo browsers, of course), and training. "We need to help democratize the Internet," says Luis Boucinhas, executive director of Globo.com.