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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Chris land who wrote (5302)	12/21/2000 3:38:12 PM
From: Master (Hijacked)	Respond to of 28931

Geez Chris...you make me feel like I'm in the movie Poltergeist and you're the Reverend.

To: Chris land who wrote (5302)	12/21/2000 3:51:21 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 28931

God who is spiritual and created everything is not bound by time and in fact exists without being influenced by it whatsoever. There can be no interaction with our universe without a sense of time. A God beyond time could not even be an observer. Now if you throw in prediction you are making the case for a deterministic universe. In such a case we are puppets of fate. I think you use time as a word game, but it is really the foundation of our universe. TP

To: Chris land who wrote (5302)	12/24/2000 8:03:21 PM
From: yard_man	Respond to of 28931

>>that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day<< I love that passage -- of it is quoted with most emphasis being place on the last passage -- some reference it with respect to time-scales of the age of the earth, creative processes, etc -- but the context is God's desire to save and for men to know God and His salvation --- Thinking about the first part -- one day as a thousand years -- God (existing in and out of time) sees the potential at all the scales of time -- many of which are incomprehensible to us -- such potential in every minute, every second that we live -- yet there are purposes that move on scales of hundreds, even thousands of years -- all are tied up in God's ultimate purpose -- impossible for us to see and understand on our own ... I think of the passage in Romans: God subjected this world to futility -- not for futility's sake -- but in hope Glimpses of his action on all scales are only possible with the eyes of faith -- noone gets complete understanding inside time -- but only glimpses ...