To: Freedom Fighter who wrote (87555 ) 12/26/2000 12:49:38 PM From: Walkingshadow Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070 Wayne, I'm sure you are, as you say, honest and decent. The vast majority of people are. Those that are not, however, imagine themselves otherwise. This is not denial, because denial implies that you know the truth, and lie to yourself about it. This would be, for all but the psychopathic/sociopathic types, intolerable. It is instead much more akin to delusion, i.e. you believe something to be true which is not, and tell yourself so, and tell others so, and they agree with you and further propagate that belief. << I can't imagine myself behaving the way many people like that behave. >> Well, I don't mean this in any accusing or attacking way, but neither could any of the people that do in fact behave that way. They imagine and believe otherwise, and if you tested them with a lie detector as you questioned them, the needle probably wouldn't budge. This doesn't make them fundamentally different from me, or inherently bad---just inherently human. As am I. Is there anyone among us who, looking at somebody or something we judged immoral, or unethical, hasn't said to ourselves with all honesty and sincerity: "I would never be like that. I would do the right thing." And if we have all done so, is it not reasonable to conclude that they have made similar judgements as said precisely the same thing to themselves as well? And yet it didn't work out as planned, did it? Why? What is fundamentally different between you and them, and how could you have known ahead of time----considering that they didn't? The extremity of the behavior of others is always much more shocking to me than the extremity of my own. But others may be similarly shocked by my at times extreme behavior, yet not be shocked by what I view as their extreme behavior! That's a problem! <gggggggg> JMVHO...................... Walkingshadow