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To: Eric L who wrote (37042)	12/26/2000 10:55:39 AM
From: gdichaz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 54805

Eric L: Thanks. Minor point - assume you meant plain ole vanilla 3GPP in this: "* GSM & TDMA carriers representing some 480 million subscribers are evolving 2nd & 3rd generation services in 3GPP2." As usual, we are looking at the evolution from different points of view, so while I see many of the same facts you do, my "take" or emphasis is somewhat different - perhaps due to less knowledge, perhaps just looking more at Asia and recognizing that Europe is zero for the Q now, so what happens there is relatively unimportant in the near term as far as the Q is concerned. Standards bodies are crucial, on that we agree and I recognize that you follow 3GPP as carefully as is practical, while I have no clue. On 3GPP2, I have been relying on Ben's status reports. Re progress on the ground: While GPRS is "packet based", it is a weak reed on which to lean for data (in all its forms, such as video for example)in comparison to any evolving CDMA approach currently or prospectively in place IMO. Yes, I agree that as of now GSM land will install GPRS, but what will be fascinating will be whether its reception will be widespread disappointment a la WAP or enthusiastic reception. I remember that a person I respect - you - says "I hate WAP". Will be curious re: your views on GPRS when you have the opportunity sometime next year to try it. Will also be interested in the reception of the superior counterpart in CDMA land of 1x. And as I see data as key, the advantage of 1xEV is compelling as a platform in whatever flavor it is or will be IMO. I see Edge (if it happens) as very very weak competition to 1xEV - let alone WCDMA of any form or flavor. While it is true that some limited WCDMA (of ancient vintage) will be tested in "new" spectrum by DoCoMo in Japan in May and in the Isle of Man, that is a sideshow IMO. No substantial commercial roll out of any version of UMTS seems likely anytime soon as best I can tell. Hence my interest in current spectrum where the players are GPRS in GSM land and the evolving 1x, 1xEV (DO first and then DV second) in CDMA land. That is a comparison which is similar to an amateur taking on Ty Woods IMO - and IxEV is Ty Woods, no? (The last is just to see if you are fully awake. <g> ) Best as always. Cha2 PS And while I recognize the limitations of trying to divide analysis by current and new spectrum, it does seem to be useful as a focus - even recognizing some spilling out over the edges.

To: Eric L who wrote (37042)	12/26/2000 11:38:42 AM
From: Mike Buckley	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 54805

Happy Holidays, Eric! I think we need to be on the look out for a new period of hypergrowth (a new tornado) within mobile wireless telephony, that will center around the migration of voice services to voice and data services. True, but how do we measure it? --Mike Buckley

To: Eric L who wrote (37042)	12/26/2000 2:03:19 PM
From: gdichaz	Respond to of 54805

Eric L: (Not so much for you, but as a reminder to others of progress of 1xEV on the ground in the real world in current spectrum.) "To: Ramsey Su who started this subject From: Kent Rattey Tuesday, Dec 26, 2000 12:25 PM ET Reply # of 5757 Lucent, Qualcomm complete cdma2000 1xEV test by Kelly Carroll Online Exclusive, Dec 20 2000 (Telephony) When Lucent Technologies and Qualcomm announced their partnership about six months ago, they had one goal: to demonstrate a smooth evolution to third-generation services delivered via code division multiple access equipment. Now that they have successfully completed a live data call, they are sure that cdma2000 1xEV will allow mobile operators to offer data transmission rates of 2.4 Mbps using existing spectrum and network infrastructure equipment. “This signifies that our relationship with Qualcomm is moving forward and that Lucent is committed to bringing 1xEV to the market,” said Ed Chao, senior manager of CDMA product management at Lucent Technologies. “We have gone from PowerPoint presentations to integrating the technology into our base-station platform.” Completing these tests sets the stage for Lucent to engage in field trials of the technology with customers such as Verizon Wireless and Sprint PCS by spring, Chao said. “We think this is revolutionary technology because of its increased capacity. There is a significant increase over other 3G technologies,” he said. “Plus, it gets us up the IP learning curve, because the tests were based on an all-IP architecture.” In addition, by using existing spectrum, carriers might not have to worry so much about spending large sums of money at spectrum auctions. Lucent and Qualcomm completed the tests over a link in the 1.9 GHz spectrum using Lucent's Flexent wireless network equipment. The technology tested applications such as Web browsing, streaming video and e-mail via data transmission speeds of up to 2.4 Mbps. Lucent plans to integrate the 1xEV technology into its equipment with commercial availability in early 2002. " Best. Cha2