To: Frank A. Coluccio who wrote (9942 ) 12/26/2000 4:58:17 PM From: ftth Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12823 Hi Frank, re: "...variations going forward, depending on emerging requirements, especially as they apply to VSR carrier applications, and in the local loop." Definitely, the last chapter in 1 Gb (or even 100M and 10M for that matter) ethernet hasn't been written. I was hoping that the new Ethernet First Mile IEEE working group would take some significant steps. Maybe they will (they've only had 1 meeting so far), but after reviewing the presentations I'm not terribly encouraged. There's still a lot of weight behind new copper-based evolutions, and there are even some that are of the opinion that 10Mbps is enough for the future. If the goal of the EFM group is to settle on 1 and move forward with it, I'm afraid right now I'd bet they go the copper route, unfortunately. However, I just can't see wasting time/effort developing a standard that requires new copper cable be laid in order to achieve distance+speed. That makes zero sense. They should split the EFM effort into 2 groups from the start: 1 for copper, 1 for fiber. That way both camps have the opportunity to develop something important, and all the copper vs. fiber wars that will happen if they keep it as one group would be eliminated. There will still be battles within each of these 2 camps, but at least they eliminate the "big" battle. Let these copperheads go off and figure out how to transmit 100Mb ethernet over 10000 feet of existing 24AWG wire, while the fiberheads zero in on something that has a future (not that I'm biased or anything<gg>). The copper vs. fiber battle within this group is not constructive.