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To: tinkershaw who wrote (63355)	12/27/2000 8:39:46 AM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 93625

Re: probably true about some legacy software [poor P4 performance] It's true about 98% of all X86 ever written and 98% of all X86 software anyone wants to use. corporate America is and will be buying these things left and right That's what everyone said about the iapx432 archictecture, and later about the i860 architecture - and they were mistaken. I think P4 will eventually become a volume product, but not until there are singel channel motherboards available for it (RDRAM or other), .13 chips, and cheaper memory so that it doesn't have such high costs associated with it. Even though RDRAM uses fewer pins, it requires additional ground traces and wider spacing between the data traces. The result is that it is about the same cost to add an RDRAM channel as it is to add an SDRAM channel. Right now the only boards available to support P4 are dual channel boards. Adding the second channel adds about $35 in costs ($70 to the buyer), the P4 chip itself is about 4 times as expensive to make as a P3 (adding between $60 and $100 to costs, $120 to $200 more to the buyer's price) and RDRAM is also more expensive (adding about $75 to the cost and about $150 to the price the buyer pays). Until P4 loses this cost / price disadvantage of about $170 / $340, it is going to be a niche product - especially in the present, unusually price sensitive market. Dan

To: tinkershaw who wrote (63355)	12/27/2000 10:39:43 AM
From: blake_paterson	Respond to of 93625

tinkershaw: welcome aboard. I've enjoyed your posts elsewhere, even tho' I still can't pronounce the name of that bz school you go to <g>. I passed on 'dropping out' of the workforce to attend UMichigan this past August. Would've been fun, but too many responsibilities at hand. Looks like a January rate cut is now a done deal, IMHO: dismal.com take a look at the chart @ mid page...the last time the spread between temps and total employment was so big was in '90, leading the 91-92 recession. Convention has it that if we get one more decline in leading indicators next month (December #'s, released 22 January), then we are looking at the "R" word: dismal.com BP