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To: EJhonsa who wrote (9956)12/27/2000 5:55:08 PM
From: MikeM54321  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12823
 
"Isn't AOL Time Warner planning on offering AOL TV via Time Warner's cable lines? If they are, that could be one such deal. Here's a couple of lines from the AOL TV web site"

Eric- I thought it was for dial-up only. Just like Microsoft TV. If you can find a url showing it's a CM connection, I would appreciate it.
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"3. The larger screen size of an average TV could be useful for streaming video applications (assuming that bandwidth is sufficient)."

But you would be opening up the Panadora's Box. This may turn the traditional TV model upside down overnight. I can't see the MSOs taking the risk.
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"That's a good point; low-cost TVs tend to have display qualities equivalent to those of older 14" VGA PC monitors. However, most new TVs tend to be a bit better."

Current TV resolution standard is no better that I know of. Now Digital TV sets, well that's entirely different. But they currently cost triple to quadruaple a standard TV set of comparable size. If you bring it up to the HDTV level, the price is astronomical today. But I do ponder what will happen as consumer start the change over to digital TV sets. Then it would make more sense to browse the web via TV. I think that's so far off that the MSOs are not too worried about it today.
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"I'm a little confused here; wouldn't proprietary interactive TV services upset these advertisers in a similar manner by taking away eyeballs?"

No. Interactive TV is a dream for advertisers. The eyeballs are turned to their product. That is what the "i" is in Interactive. The subscriber cannot go willy nilly all over the WWW. He can click on a product he likes and that will take him to a place to buy it. But the next step is to return the subscriber back to the TV program.

Personally I envision a "The Truman Show" type of situation. Where the show is the 'ad'. If you see something you like that an actor is wearing, you click on it and it'll take you to where you can buy it. Or click on a piece of furniture. Bingo! You can order it to be delivered to your home. If you look into MPEG-4, that is what I believe makes it so attractive for content producers. The ability to tie in marketing with content.

From what I understand, MPEG-4 could turn everything upside down and make MSOs, subscribers, and advertisers all very happy. I see MPEG-4 being the 'killer app' that changes everything.
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"Aside from AOL Time Warner, AT&T Broadband, with its huge stake in @Home and its telco-oriented parent, may also jump in. So might Charter, given Paul Allen's position in the company. Lastly, Microsoft may attempt to influence some of the MSOs that it's invested in to head this way. Obviously, the more applications that a subscriber uses a set-top for, the more it benefits Gates & co. As I said, it ought to be interesting to see how all of this develops."

Well I think it's hard enough to get the plant up to speed for the CM-Computer subscribers they are picking up. I just don't see an incentive to attempt to go after CM-TV when it could really mess things up badly for them.

IMO, if the CM in STB rolls out, it's for i-TV use and nothing more. -MikeM(From Florida)

PS BTW if it was easy to search back a year or so ago on this thread, I used to have your opinion. I thought there was going to be a HUGE push to get web browsing to the other 50% of US households lacking a computer and connection to the web. I thought TV was the key. But as I see how the entrenched interests work, I no longer see this happening.



To: EJhonsa who wrote (9956)12/27/2000 6:13:25 PM
From: ftth  Respond to of 12823
 
Hi Eric, re: "Broadcom's cable modem chip, which goes into these boxes, costs roughly $50. Thus, if a cable operator wants to deploy new set-top boxes in order to offer non-IP interactive services, getting a box with a cable modem thrown in may not be prohibitively expensive."

The cost of the chipsets have been in sharp decline, along with BRCM's margins and market share, over the past year or so. Last I heard they were in the $35 area, but that chip is only part of the total modem bill of material(BOM), which has also been in sharp decline. The early-market honeymoon is over. There have been recent claims of sub-$100 BOM costs (for the full modem) to the OEM (it was either using the Philips or STMicro chipset, I forget which), for DOCSIS 1.0 internal modems. That would be about 30% of the cost for the remainder of the STB, so it's definitely not insignificant.

If the sub doesn't want data service via the STB, that (embedded) modem cost is a waste. Even if the modem OEM cost gets below $75 (which is truly amazing, but may very well happen over the next year considering the number of competitors in these chipsets)...or let's stretch things a bit and say $50, I'd say that's still not insignificant to the MSO.

re:"...low-cost TVs tend to have display qualities equivalent to those of older 14" VGA PC monitors. However, most new TVs tend to be a bit better."

Granted, they have improved some, and it varies from TV to TV somewhat, but, until digital TV's become a part of everyone's living room, the standard TV set will be the limiting factor against the use of the TV as a display device for internet (i.e. mainly text) content. I think there's an important distinction between interactive TV and internet TV, as MikeM mentioned. For simple control interaction with TV content, the current TV's will work OK. But current TV's were never intended to display mostly-text pages, and they don't do it very well. Small text is unintelligible (set your computer video into 640x480, 60Hz interlaced video mode and display a document in a thick 18 point font (minimum) to get an idea of about the best you can do on a TV). Even if the text quality on the TV was superb (w/r/t text) at the equivalent of about 640x480 on your computer display, I still would not use the TV. It would drive me nuts to have to revert to 640x480 @ 18pt font on my computer monitor for internet (or any other) viewing. On the other hand, if you don't know any different (i.e. non-PC users), your tolerances are different and there are no pre-conceived expectations.

re:"...as HFC upgrade costs get paid off,..."
Not in this lifetime they wont.



To: EJhonsa who wrote (9956)12/28/2000 2:40:12 PM
From: Mkilloran  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12823
 
Eric....why surf the web with a TV settop box.
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Look to China as an example..it's a way to get hundreds of millions of people online cheap. See article below :
A way for many to cross the digital divide,,,

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Chinese Government Plans For Digital TV
(08/30/00, 12:44 p.m. ET) By Sunray Liu, EE Times
The head of China's State Administration of Radio, Film, and Television (Sarft) is drafting a five-year plan for a timetable and standard for digital TV. It plans to publish its HDTV specification in 2003 and end analog TV broadcasts by 2010.

Industry experts predict that the evolution of digital TV in China could generate a $12.5 billion market. Proponents of competing U.S. and European standards for digital TV broadcasts have been eyeing the potentially huge Chinese market and trying to determine the government's transmission standard.

The Chinese government showcased its digital TV technology by broadcasting its 50th anniversary celebration last October. Since then, it has issued nationwide digital satellite TV, cable TV, and digital studio standards. "Digital technology will be a revolutionary advance for China's TV and radio industry," said vice minister of Sarft Haitao Zhang. "It's a new growth point for the industry."

The HDTV timetable drafted by Sarft will give a detailed evolution strategy for introducing digital TV services across China covering production, broadcasting, terrestrial communications, and transmission via broadcast, cable TV, and satellite infrastructure. The government is also making plans for frequency spectrum allocations and other technical requirements for HDTV broadcasting.

China's State Planning and Development Committee authorized Sarft to establish a government terrestrial HDTV test laboratory backed by the central government -- a fact that gives the project greater urgency. The lab will test transmission standards from Japan, North America, and Europe and then draft the technical specifications for China's HDTV services.

Zhang said that all three formats will affect China's HDTV standard in different ways but that Sarft will focus on customizing its own systems to benefit China's digital TV network.

Sarft earlier formed an HDTV standards group, which has concluded the framework for the Chinese standard. The standards group is testing the three terrestrial formats developed for use in the major world markets and will submit the final test report to China's State Council in October. The report is expected to cover preparations for implementing the architecture for the Chinese digital TV standard.

After reviewing the Sarft report, the government is scheduled to issue the official standard in 2003.

An expert said the detailed preparations and investigations are essential to the success of the new standard. "The industry in our country still needs a period for preparation," he said.

Zhang agreed, adding, "We shall start our digital TV industry overall through the driving forces of satellite and cable TV."

China is setting up trial platforms for HDTV and standard-definition TV (SDTV). Some cities will begin receiving DTV broadcasts through cable and satellite networks. The State Planning and Development Committee selected Beijing, Shanghai, and Shenzhen as sites for R&D as well as for developing a manufacturing infrastructure.

Shenzhen, near Hong Kong, will begin trial HDTV broadcasts later this year. After completing construction on a tower that will cover the areas around Canton and Hong Kong in southern China, the Shenzhen station will broadcast 12 hours of HDTV programming during the China High Technology Fair in November. . The Shenzhen station will follow up with two to three hours of HDTV programming during the national holidays and is slated to begin three to five hours a day of regular HDTV broadcasting late in the year. And by 2005 the Shenzhen station is expected to halt analog broadcasting and replace it with HDTV and SDTV programming.

The U.S. had planned to end analog broadcasts by 2006, but many observers believe the deadline will be delayed by a long-running dispute over a modulation scheme.

To reach its goals, Sarft is speeding the digitalization of its TV broadcast center and is enhancing the national cable TV network. The digital cable TV network is expected to become a mainstay of China's HDTV industry and Sarft plans to implement networked program exchanges and communications. Currently, nearly 80 million Chinese households receive cable signals out of an estimated 326 million households with TVs. Sarft hopes to expand the total to 150 million households with cable by 2005 and 200 million by 2010.

Interactive network technologies and digital cable TV boxes are expected to become mainstream consumer devices in China over the next decade, analysts said.



To: EJhonsa who wrote (9956)12/28/2000 2:46:54 PM
From: Mkilloran  Respond to of 12823
 
ERIC...By the start of 2003, Quantum New Media Services predicts that 8.8m UK homes, from 6m today, will access the internet through a home computer while 11.7m homes will be using interactive television to access the net. ONdigital recently launched its full internet service, ONnet, and the other broadcasting platforms are set to follow suit.

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Switch On To The Future Of TV-- Investors Chronicle - U K; Dec 15 - iatv_longter 12/15/00 4:58:49 PM


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Subject: Switch On To The Future Of TV-- Investors Chronicle - U K; Dec 15
From: iatv_longter
Date: Friday, December 15, 2000 (EST) at 4:58:49 PM

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Digital Revolution: Switch On To The Future Of TV - Digital Television Is
Investors Chronicle - United Kingdom; Dec 15, 2000
BY DAVID ROTHWELL

Television has changed very little since the BBC first began broadcasting from Alexandra Palace back in 1936. Viewers have sat passively watching the box for 60 years, benefiting only from the addition of colour in the 1960s, the arrival of the remote control in the 1970s and the introduction of satellite and cable broadcasting in the 1980s. By 2003, however, most homes in the UK will be hooked up to digital and television will play an increasingly important role in everyday life.

For the same amount of bandwidth much more information can be stuffed into a digital signal than in an analogue one. That not only means improved sound and picture quality but also means more channels, some dedicated only to interactive services. While digital cable viewers are already connected to a two-way pipe to be able to shop, download games and access video-on-demand, satellite and terrestrial viewers need only a phone line to connect to these services.

British Sky Broadcasting was the first to broadcast its satellite service in digital two years ago and was swiftly followed by digital terrestrial broadcaster ONdigital, a joint venture between ITV giants Granada Media and Carlton Communications. In that short time the demand for digital television has surpassed even the most optimistic predictions. BSkyB has already converted most of its 4.7m subscribers to digital and will stop broadcasting in analogue altogether early in 2001 while ONdigital, which is a brand new service, is on track to achieve 1m new subscribers by the end of the year. That's already a quarter of the 23m homes in the UK and at the current rate of take-up more than half the country could be watching in digital by 2003.

The enormous potential of the internet has attracted most media attention in recent years but despite all the fuss the internet has yet to reach the mass market. Many people are reluctant to buy a home computer because of the expense and fear of operating systems they can't understand. Internet access via a TV is more convenient and easier to use than a computer and is expected to prove more popular. By the start of 2003, Quantum New Media Services predicts that 8.8m UK homes, from 6m today, will access the internet through a home computer while 11.7m homes will be using interactive television to access the net. ONdigital recently launched its full internet service, ONnet, and the other broadcasting platforms are set to follow suit.

Research in Germany by Mercer Management Consulting found that people who owned digital television and were able to access the internet through it stopped using their PCs. It also discovered that people without a PC wouldn't bother to buy one once they had access to the internet through their TVs. That suggests television will become the main access point to the internet in the future and slow the growing demand for home computers. This is likely to hit internet service providers, such as Freeserve and America Online which depend on the PC for their customers.

Accessing the internet through a TV set will not only reduce viewing figures for scheduled programmes but will also give viewers access to new programmes. Internet TV sites such as I-chooseTV are now producing shows exclusively for the internet. A number of companies are also using the internet to revive the short film. Atom Films, for example, gives new film makers an outlet for their work and allows internet users to download films that would never have made it to the screen otherwise.

Although the internet is unlikely to become the main platform for most people to watch their favourite programmes it will provide an alternative source of viewing entertainment and further fragment audiences.

As well as access to the internet, digital television offers a ''walled garden'' of services similar to those offered on the net. Banking is widely predicted to be the most popular of these services and most banking is likely to be done online in the near future. All the major high street banks have been quick to set up internet facilities and interactive offerings through digital television. Abbey National reckons that by 2003 26m adults will be able to bank via their television sets. Checking balances, paying bills and arranging overdrafts will all be done through the television.

Gaming industry

By 2003 the gaming industry will also be transformed as punters will be given the opportunity to gamble on sporting events while watching them on television. Gambling group Blue Square, which already operates through BSkyB's Open service, is proposing an arrangement that will split a television screen into two parts, one section acting as the normal TV showing the game or event while the other will link viewers to the gambling site. This will make it possible to bet at any time during an event. If your horse falls on the first leg of a race you'll be able to put a bet on another horse in the middle of the race, or if a football tournament has to be decided by penalties the site can give viewers up-to-date odds on which players are likely to score.

Video-on-demand has already arrived in the UK and is expected to mark the death knell for pay-per-view services and video rental. Viewers simply choose the film or programme they want to watch and can start and stop it whenever they choose. Video Networks launched its service HomeChoice earlier this year and is currently embarking on an aggressive advertising campaign. It is currently available to 2.5m households in London and plans to extend this to 70 per cent of the UK population by the end of the year. Another provider, Yes Television, which tried and failed to float on the stock market twice this year, has joined with BT and is trialling services in west London. These services need broadband ADSL phone lines in order to provide the service.

Interactive television is not a new idea - it has been around for many years. In the 1980s TCI and Time Warner introduced a number of interactive services to a small group of viewers in the US with some encouraging results. The trial group were given the opportunity to shop, play games and call up particular programmes on demand. Unfortunately, neither company could make any of the services cost-effective enough to be commercially viable. But with digital television, interactivity is already embedded into the broadcast signal so the cost of sending interactive data is negligible.

Interactive TV service, Open, which offers viewers the opportunity to shop, bank and play games, began operating in the UK a year ago and is already proving popular. UK retailer Woolworth recorded 5,000 orders a week on Open in the run up to Christmas last year and is expecting significant growth in orders this year.

Along with WH Smith, Woolworth is about to launch an advertising campaign that will add an interactive icon to television ads. Viewers will be able to watch an ad and be taken directly to the relevant shopping pages on Open by pressing a button on their remote control. Similar campaigns are planned for ONdigital and the digital services of cable operators Telewest and NTL. This will not only give viewers the opportunity to buy directly from an advert but will also give advertisers a better idea of which campaigns appeal most to their customers. The interactivity, which is fragmenting audiences, will also allow advertisers to learn about individual customers and send them customised messages instead of one-size-fits-all advertisements.

Interactive TV will allow advertisers to gain more information about viewers but it also has a worrying side effect. Viewers will be able to easily skip commercial breaks. Where interactive TV has already taken off in the US this has become one of the most popular features. If commercial breaks become less effective, advertisers will look to other mediums to get their message across which could mark the end of this type of free-to-air TV.

Advanced set-top boxes can act as video recorders but their potential to change viewing habits is far greater. Recordings are stored on special chips inside the set-top box so there is no need for videotape. Recording to a chip means that it will be possible to begin watching a programme that is still being recorded, and will make it easy to fast forward through all the advertising breaks. Interactive digital video recorders from companies such as TiVo and ReplayTV also allow viewers to skip past commercials when playing recorded material.

Advertising

Television advertising has hardly changed since the first ad for Gibbs SR toothpaste was aired in 1955. But advertisers are well aware of the changes taking place in the television industry and are looking at different ways of getting their message across. Just as the remote control, multi-channel television and the video recorder were expected to mark the end of TV advertising, digital broadcasting is unlikely to break the strong bond between advertisers and TV that has existed for 50 years.

By 2003, however, adverts are likely to be very different from those aired today. One way to advertise on TV without breaking up a programme is to become part of the programme itself. Sponsoring programmes is already common but rather than just featuring alongside a popular show, brands are making shows of their own.

Celebrity magazine OK! was the first to do this when it commissioned a series of OK!-branded programmes on the lives of famous people. This idea has now been taken a step further with a recent programme on the Knightsbridge department store Harrods using the technology of Open to allow digital subscribers to BSkyB the opportunity to buy goods as they are featured on the programme. As well as promoting the store the programme also gives shoppers the opportunity to make purchases without ever having to visit.