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To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (119743)	12/27/2000 5:10:39 PM
From: SecularBull	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

What legal right did the the U. S. Government have to keep the Southern States from seceding from the Union? What was the legal basis for invading the South? LoF PS I agree that slavery is morally wrong, but I do find some serious issues with the questions raised above.

To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (119743)	12/27/2000 5:12:09 PM
From: SecularBull	Respond to of 769667

So we should have tried and executed Emperor Hirohito? LoF

To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (119743)	12/27/2000 7:56:18 PM
From: Catfish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

Regardless of the morality of the issue, it was an economic disagreement. This economic issue had polarized each side around their own ideology. The union could not remain whole with such a strong disagreement. It could either split apart, or one ideology would have to be subordinated to the other to preserve the union.

To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (119743)	12/27/2000 8:10:22 PM
From: Mr. Whist	Respond to of 769667

I agree with your mini-analysis. Those who try to downplay the moral reasons for the Civil War continue to run from the truth. The Emancipation Proclamation had the effect of elevating the war to high moral status, effectively keeping England from recognizing the legitimacy of the Confederacy. At the same time as the EP, the great Harriet Beecher Stowe was lecturing in England to achieve the same, namely, prevent England from recognizing the Stars and Bars. Slavery was the worst obscenity of several to descend upon the North American continent. John Brown, not Robert E. Lee, got it right. We as a country are still reeling from the after-effects of slavery 135 years later.

To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (119743)	12/27/2000 8:49:33 PM
From: WTSherman	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769667

<That, my friend, is not just economic-- not even close. Indeed it was an affront to America, rejecting the very justification for America's existence. No American can honour this. < JP, your points are all on the mark on this issue. Its interesting to note that both George Washington and Thomas Jefferson appeared to understand the very contradictory nature of owning slaves and having been such a big part of creating a new country that was built on a new principle. While neither could face the disapproval of their friends and family by freeing their slaves while they were alive, both men manumitted their slaves upon their deaths.