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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: WTSherman who wrote (119785)	12/27/2000 10:49:21 PM
From: alan w	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

So why don't you take it over to the Oracle thread? alan w

To: WTSherman who wrote (119785)	12/28/2000 12:20:32 PM
From: SecularBull	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Does that go for those on the U. S. welfare roles, too? Those who do not seek to improve their lot as long as there is a handout (a generalization, to be fair)... LoF

To: WTSherman who wrote (119785)	12/28/2000 1:06:19 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

If so, then there really is no excusing the conduct of people "born into a system". I excuse Jefferson, and many other slave-owning founders, despite that I believe in moral absolutes. I excuse Jefferson because he acknowledged the correct moral position on slavery but as a result of human frailty had not the courage to act upon it. We are all frail, and so I can identify with Jefferson. I cannot excuse the Confederacy because its leaders actually argued wrongly and caused hundreds of thousands of deaths on this wrong position. Were pro-Confederates to roundly and generally repudiate the philosophical position of the Confederacy, then I would not sense a threat and would even be able to isolate the Confederacy's moral stain from its virtue. But until then, I will hammer the living hell out of that stain wherever God gives me power, this, to try eliminating the threat to my country's philosophy. Philosophy matters. I should add that I am something of a state's rightist. I consider it a great loss that government power became so centralised. I simply do not think that states have the right to deny the inalienable rights of humans. The Confederacy thought states had this right. It was wrong. Thank God it lost the Civil War.