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To: Fangorn who wrote (21)	12/28/2000 7:34:11 PM
From: John Curtis	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

Fangorn: Agreed, there's lot's of room for expansion. But as you implied, at this point it means burying the hatchet(s), and working together for the common good of the species, as a species. And in this regard.....well.....I still see us squabbling like a bunch of 5 year olds with a bag of cookies and no teacher. Or half sentient clothed monkeys with a paradisical planet to abuse with nary a guardian to restrain us. Carolyn.....Civil War, eh? Hmmmm.....lot'sa different philosophies there. No question. Slavery vs Freedom is one. Industrial might vs agrarian philosophy another. Country vs City is yet another. That War was probably an amalgam of all three, and more. But since I cannot abide by the idea of calling another human being my property....well...call me a Yankee though I was born in Alabama. ;-) John~

To: Fangorn who wrote (21)	12/28/2000 9:08:57 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 23908

OT: Mars has more land area than Earth does, admittedly not very fertile or warm but expansive none the less, and certainly has water if only at the poles. The Moon is also quite empty and probably has water too. True. But HOW do we establish and maintain even small colonies economically in either place? Cost-efficient space transport systems simply do not exist. I'd say it is not lack of willingness but lack of ability that is stopping us. I'm working from memory, and this is not my speciality (I write flight software for satellites), but as I remember it costs $3000 to get a pound to geosynchronous altitude. That's only 22,000 miles- -not the 225,00 to the moon or the hundreds of millions to Mars.