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To: asenna1 who wrote (120356)	1/1/2001 12:37:51 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Yeah, and the foolish fear of Nazism, Fascism, and Bushidoism led us into World War Two. Do you think that the Rape of Nanking or Holocaust were inventions of the West to justify an imperialist contest with the Axis powers? Do you think that the Terror Famine in Ukraine was an invention, to slander Stalin? That the Cultural Revolution was a trivial perturbation in Chinese society? Why should our fear of Communism, which avowedly sought destruction of the capitalist- imperialist powers and the construction of a socialist world around the vanguard state of the Soviet Union,have been foolish, when our trust of Hitler was stupidity itself. Remember, the Iron Curtain image was invoked after Stalin failed to live up to promises he had undertaken at Yalta about elections and respect for the independence of Eastern Europe. This was the equivalent, in Western eyes, to Hitler having annexed Czechoslovakia after being handed the Sudetenland. Yes, there was later bipolarity in the socialist camp as the USSR and the PRC fell into competition. But it was all of a piece in its hostility to US interests, and it took Nixon to exploit the rift for our strategic gain.

To: asenna1 who wrote (120356)	1/1/2001 10:09:43 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 769670

You're ignoring a few things: Do you understand that their intention was to impose their system on us and then rule the world? Maybe you will answer our intention was the same, but if I've got to pick, I'll pick our system. You know, when the day is done, it really is a working democracy. Theirs was a brutal autocratic dictatorship. Communism was not as bad as claimed. It was worse. And: Tell me: (I assume you're American.) As of now, would you rather live in the US or Russia? Or China? Or Cuba? Or Vietnam? Which Peasant and Workers People's Republic paradise do you prefer? Would you rather have lived in any of them 30 years ago or the US? So the fear of communism was not foolish. Hold it here. Are you saying that the USSR was not brought down by Ronald Raygun and his sidekick? Oh. You know, I don't remember them firing one shot -much less one missile- -against the Soviet Union. Or offering support, other than moral, to its enemies (Yeltsin). They did not overthrow the Soviet regime, nor did they invade. Next? (Oh, and your question seems to imply sympathy for the brutal criminals who preceded Gorbachev and Yeltsin. True?)