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To: rjm2 who wrote (11726)1/6/2001 11:50:50 AM
From: TimbaBear  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 78497
 
This is an open letter to the thread and I ask for comment from all who have opinions.

This is likely to be a very long post, so please be forewarned!

I have "lurked" here for years, following the postings faithfully. At first, I knew very little about the concepts. I had read much and since, have read much more. I selected from the reading lists and recommendations posted here and elsewhere, and endeavored to understand every concept on every page....which for me, is sometimes no mean feat! I have occasionally posted here, I think the most recent was quite a while ago regarding the thinking of cruise passengers and how that related to CCL.

Finally, I have learned the only true way I have learned anything in this life, I got hurt really badly....repeatedly. Suffering major financial setbacks in the market.

I believe I have it in me to be a successful investor, and if it turns out that one day I come to the decision that I just don't have what it takes, then I'll move on to whatever else awaits. But until then, I must give it my best shot.

All of the above is sort of a "qualifying" introduction.

Now to the issues I'm facing:

Through no great feat of mental acuity, I have decided that since the market has been in decline for quite a while, I might be able to find a few companies which are selling at great prices. Those who have a built in margin of safety.

I will outline my evaluation process and ask you for insights and suggested improvements.

First, I did a scan for all companies with a Price-to-Book(P/B) maximum of 1; with a Return on Equity(ROE) of at least 10; Trailing Price to Earnings ratio(P/E) of a max of 8; and finally, a forward P/E of a max of 10.

This came back with something like 100 companies....I chose to manually write down the symbols(sort of a getting in touch with the earth kind of thing), and as I did, I screened the list and eliminated all banks, finance companies, mortgage companies and some others because they seemed to me to be "fad" companies. This left me with a listing of 46 companies to research.

These companies I went through and weeded out all those who had poor current ratios(current assets divided by current liabilities of less than 2) and those whose net profit margin was less than 2%. I figured these companies would get cheaper if the economy is slowing down and competition forced margins even lower.

This winnowing process left me with 18 companies.

Then I went to the balance sheets.

I added current assets and cash together and subtracted from that total all liabilities. I divided the answer by the number of shares outstanding. The answer I got I am calling "Net current value", but it probably has been labeled better somewhere and I would appreciate someone letting me know what it is.

Then I took the Property, plant and equipment asset value and added to it all other remaining assets. I discounted that amount by 50% and divided the answer by the number of shares and got what I call "Net hard value"....again, there's probably a better name.

Some additional thinning occurred during this process which drove the list down to 16 candidates.

I will continue this on the next post, as this one is getting a bit lengthy.