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To: Puck who wrote (8689)	1/6/2001 7:10:28 AM
From: Kent Rattey	Respond to of 34857

"This list is an incontrovertible endorsement of the 6185i from a very broad array of U.S. wireless providers. Now where do you think the problem lies: with Nokia or with Verizon." NOKIA Puck, I went to PrimeCo in Houston: primeco.com Go shopping for a phone and see if you find the 6185I I went to Alltel: estore.alltel.com See if you find the 6185i. If they are selling it, they don't want anyone to know. Here we are at Sprint PCS: e14.sprintpcs.com They must be keeping them next to their secret stash of Playstation 2's. Qwest does have it…. uswestwireless.com It can be devastating to your financial health if you accept everything at face value. Kent

To: Puck who wrote (8689)	1/6/2001 10:16:25 AM
From: Eric L	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Puck, << Now where do you think the problem lies: with Nokia or with Verizon >> Now that is a good question. I am under the impression that unlike in GSM, two-way text messaging is not implemented uniformly between CDMA networks. Verizon spent the better part of last year implementing a two-way text messaging capability, and has only recently released it. However ... no matter ... Nokia is not going to get to many more opportunities with Verizon one would think. They have had a long absence from Verizon (and formerly BAM's stores), other than for low end AMPS only models (currently the 252). Currently the Nokia 5185i is the only one of Verizon's top-tier tri-mode phones that is NOT WAP enabled, and as a matter of fact, virtually every other model Verizon has introduced since they introduced CDMA data service in 1999 has been WAP enabled. I was in a local Verizon store on a very busy day when the 5185i was first introduced. It was being pushed pretty heavy by the sales reps, perhaps because stocks of the Kyocera 2035 had sold out and the new Vulcan was pretty pricey. I was back about a month ago on a quiet day, and ask one of the senior reps what type of feed back they were getting from customers on the 5185i. He shrugged his shoulders, raised his hands and kinda shook his fingers, and said two words, "pretty marginal". A few minutes later I was back in a service bay and I asked the service manager what he thought of the 5185i. He replied, its a P**** o* S***. CDMA is the dominant wireless technology in the US (as of this month) and Nokia clearly does not yet have a CDMA winner. Jorma can't be to happy about that. As a stockholder, I'm not too happy about that. As a stockholder, you can't be too happy about that. As for the GSM carriers in the US. Still waiting for WAP from Nokia. I think there is a Nokia TDMA model available in the US. Now there is a technology that is really going somewhere here. Just ask Tero. - Eric -

To: Puck who wrote (8689)	1/7/2001 12:53:56 PM
From: EJhonsa	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Even though Verizon isn't yet satisfied with the 6185i, many other U.S. carriers are. From Nokia's website (http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/1,1586,index,FF.html), the U.S. carriers who carry the 6185i happily: Puck, with all due respect, you might want to take a closer look at the page you cited. The list you cited was for the 6185, not the 6185i. The 6185, as you may know, has been available for a couple of years; and, for obvious reasons, I think Sprint and a couple of others might object to having their name listed among those carriers who support it. Eric