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To: gdichaz who wrote (5984)	1/7/2001 6:14:30 PM
From: Eric L	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 196772

Cha2, Re: Samsung, SIMs and Such << So MSM 5105 or whatever chip permits the R-UIM "smart card" function may be the hold up in Korea >> As I pointed out, I could be all wet, and I am just theorizing. I think it is important to note that all GSM phones and devices ever issued, have a SIM, and in the future will have a SIM or UIM. There is no question that at some point some new CDMA phones in Asia will have a R-UIM, whether or not they are multi-mode (GSM/GPRS/W-CDMA and CdmaOne/cdma2000). I guess the question in my mind is whether (virtually) all will, or more realistically when all will.. It would appear that DoCoMo will have a UIM in all W-CDMA phones (the FOMA card), even though the initial phones will be single mode (W-CDMA). A physical UIM (or as CDG prefers to call it - a R-UIM) is a 3G requisite. << - and possibly the availability of "smart card" capable phones and software what is key to overall Chinese CDMA announcement also. >> Don't think that is the Unicom hold up. they haven't even issued RFP's yet ... I do think that probably all Chinese CDMA mobile phones will have a R-UIM, and in China dual mode (GSM/GPRS CDMA) handsets will probably be more prevalent than CDMA only. Check out this June 1999 China Unicom presentation on the CDG web site: cdg.org Korea? We shall soon see. As for the MSM5105 which has an R-UIM I/0 (as does the commercially available MSM3100) for all we know it may be shipping. The MSM5000 was originally listed on a QUALCOMM roadmap as a "trial" chip, and that is what I think it is. Meantime, this article below may have been clipped here before but it discusses Samsung who will be supplying handsets to SK Telecom >> Samsung to Sell 3G Mobile Handsets Reuters staff 28 November 2000 South Korea's Samsung Electronics plans to sell new mobile handsets that could support the initial IMT-2000, the third generation mobile telecom service, the Maeil Business Newspaper reported on Tuesday. The handsets adopt cdma2000-1x, an interim wireless service which allows mobile phones to send data at a speed of 144 Kbps, more than twice as fast as what is currently available, it said. The service had been commercialized by SK Telecom last month, but adopted only in handsets from SK Teletek, a mobile handset manufacturing sister company of SK Telecom, the newspaper said. Samsung would produce 100,000 handsets a month, it said. Other major handset makers such as *LG Electronics, Telson Electronics , Sewon Telecom and Pantach* also were expected to roll out products for the cdma2000-1x service, it said. << Note that and ZTE FutureTel of Korea, developer of the world's first CDMA SIM compatible handset (China) is not mentioned as one of the suppliers. In the CDG 10/16/000 press release about the Zhongxing Telecom Equipment Co. (ZTE) describing the CDMA-GSM interoperable Subscriber Identity Module (SIM) card and compatible handsets no mention of the specific Qualcomm chipset empoyed was made. Probably MSM3100, though. Here is another, even older clip: >> SK Telecom First to Launch cdma2000 Service Total Telecom 04 October 2000 The Republic of Korea's dominant wireless operator SK Telecom claimed a world first on Sunday with the first commercial launch of a cdma2000 mobile service, according to reports in The Korea Herald. The cdma2000 1X, or IS-95C system, is a 2.5G technology widely seen as a stepping stone to full 3G services, as it offers many of the same services but will be deployed on existing spectrum rather than the UMTS frequencies outlined in IMT-2000 specifications. The company said the service would allow data speeds of up to 144 Kbps, up to 10 times faster than existing services, and will initially deployed in the cities of Seoul and Inchon. However, the company said that **consumers would not be able to use the service in full until the end of December at the earliest, when it said handsets supporting video on demand are expected to be available. The company hopes to expand the service to 23 South Korean cities by the end of the year and cover a total of 79 major cities in 2001**. Information & Communication Minister Ahn Byong-yub confirmed last week that the government is considering delaying the launch of 3G mobile services from the original target date of June 2002 if all the bidders decide to adopt the Wideband Code Division Multiple Access (W-CDMA) standard for third-generation services, to give time for local manufacturers to develop the handsets used for W-CDMA. << "Video on Demand" appears the differentaitor of the service. When (not if) SK Telecom "properly" implements and commercializes "Video on Demand", 1xRTT (whether you call it 3G or 2.5G as the Koreans do) will be BIG news, because they may do it before GPRS (which will not, on its best day, properly support "Video on Demand") is even fully commercialized. No matter whether 1xRTT is called 2.5G as the Koreans call it, "Video on Demand" (or audio on demand, or large file transfers) are the three primary 3G capabilities (not applications) that differentiate 3G from 2.5G. Is this the phone we are all waiting for: cellular.co.za Or how about the SCH-M220 TV + CDMA Phone (GSM version coming): Note that there will be a GSM model that will have to house a SIM (UIM). Dual mode coming next? cellular.co.za Note that Samsung plans to release a GSM/GPRS (Class 8 = four receive channels/one transmit channel) WAP model this quarter (SGH Q100). The future may not be now, but it may be soon. - Eric -