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Politics : Right Wing Extremist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Neocon who wrote (880)	1/7/2001 5:42:05 AM
From: TH	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 59480

Neocon, "Traffic" is getting some very good reviews. The kind that are so good you can't buy them -g- I am very interested to see it, as it directly relates to our discussion. I understand a major theme is that we are not winning the war. As for crack, I ask how many people you have known that have fallen down that terrible path? The path from casual user of crack to "crackhead" is about two steps. As for your comment about affluent whites preferring powder, again I state that we are talking about two different drugs. What you are saying is that affluent whites like a coke buzz and inner city blacks like a crack buzz. They are not the same thing. There are several possible reasons for this. The fact that most affluent whites who use coke are aware of the major distinction between powder and rock. I have known many people who liked powder on occasion and that was the end of it. Without a single exception I do not know of anyone who tried crack and did not develop a problem. A couple of them kicked, but they are not the same people. At least one of them is dead. Maybe another reason for this is that after starting on the crack path they don't stay affluent whites for very long. I have very different views about the progression of drug use with each individual. I believe that addicts are born first and made second. I also think that price is no where near as big a factor as you do. I have known plenty of drug users over the years and I NEVER heard one say he was going to stop using because of price. I did not see usage go up or down because of swings. The user uses what amount he/she wants and this applies as much to the casual users as the hard core addicts. Now if you are talking about a ten fold increase then we might have something to debate. But coke at $80-$120 makes no difference. For all this talk about the efforts of drug enforcement and the resulting impact to cost you seem to be forgetting one very large fact. Drugs prices (adjusted for inflation) have not changed too much in the last twenty years. Pot is about $400 an ounce and coke is about $100 a gram. Where is this costing pressure from the last 20 years of drug enforcement effort? I don't see it. Lex Luther? What we are talking about is not a jump from jacking a car to robbing the local diamond dealer. What I am talking about is the move from 8 stereos that net the user 100 bucks to just putting a gun in someones face for cash. Crack makes people do some crazy stuff. I would rather that those that want it get it cheap, and stay out of my house. Granted, the ideas I have presented are not perfect or complete. I just know that I am not satisfied with the current effort and do not believe it is sincere. I play to win, not to get by. What we are doing to today is not even close to winning. You seem content to accept that this is the way it is and that most people are ok with it. If we can't legalize then lets start killing drug smugglers and distributors. Lets play to win. I was interested in seeing some input from others here on the topic. Maybe we have defined our views and now would be a good time to hear someone else's ideas. HAGO TH