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To: Scumbria who wrote (124558)1/10/2001 9:11:15 AM
From: GVTucker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Well, at least this "stupid and corrupt president" is trying to do something about the energy problem this country is facing, as opposed to his predecessor, who did nothing but hope the problem would go away.



To: Scumbria who wrote (124558)1/10/2001 9:16:24 AM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Re: "BTW: Our stupid and corrupt President is at it again:"

Don't worry Scumbria, he only has about a week left in office.

EP



To: Scumbria who wrote (124558)1/10/2001 12:29:05 PM
From: EricRR  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 186894
 
Everyone from the National Wildlife Federation to the Sierra Club fears Norton will compromise protection for endangered species in favor of economic growth, open portions of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil exploration and privatize certain lands in the National Park System.

“Norton is an unmitigated disaster,” said Scott Silver executive director of Wild Wilderness, a Bend, Oregon-based advocate group for undeveloped recreation. “It would be extremely difficult for George W. Bush to have made a worse choice.”


I actually agree with you Scumbria- I'd much rather have forests than have the gov prop up logging companies. The fact is that most logging companies would be unprofitable if they had to pay for their own roads, which the interior dept now does. But tell me- do you really think that Republicans don't care about the environment at all? John McCain does. But on "open access" -why should we have a park system that keeps people from visiting? Do Colorado residents see a huge threat to the outdoors from a few new ski lodges, or is the real fear a giant influx of new residents from say, CA?

Compared to lumber, I think oil and gas drilling could be different. With the advent of horizontal drilling, how many pumps per square mile (or square mile per pump) does one need anyway? Offshore oil fields seem to be able to pump with very sparse drill station density. Just imagine how how old growth forest could be bought (as opposed to taken) and protected using a small part of the profits.

I used to go to the north cascades national park every year. It has the last patch of virgin cedar rainforest in the 48 states. Cutting places like that down for lumber is idiotic. Wood just isn't that valuable. But that national park coexists quite happily with one of the largest hydroelectric projects in the state. I don't see why if they spend some extra money, oil and gas drilling can't coexist with wildlife.

PS- Did you know that one of the largest wildlife refuges in South Korea is the DMZ? Strange but true.



To: Scumbria who wrote (124558)1/11/2001 12:57:12 AM
From: Paul Engel  Respond to of 186894
 
SCUMbria - Re: "Our stupid and corrupt President is at it again:"

Not to worry.

He'll be out of office in only 10 more days.

Paul