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To: Charles Tutt who wrote (40379)	1/12/2001 1:24:32 PM
From: Steve Lee	Respond to of 64865

OK, for clarity "by different means" refers to having C2 compliant machines without using Compaq's NTSE. If I told you what those different means were, I would have to kill you, so I won't.

To: Charles Tutt who wrote (40379)	1/12/2001 6:25:25 PM
From: rudedog	Respond to of 64865

Charles - re: "All I'm saying is that one has to honor the limitations of the certification. " Here again, I think you are confused about the process. The certification that MSFT or any other vendor obtains is just a reference - "Here's one way to do it". Even if a customer buys that exact configuration, it still needs certification in its installation. The use of a previously certified configuration just gives the user a head start on his own certification by avoiding known problems. Likewise, the farther up the stack a reference configuration goes, the less likely it will match what a customer is already doing. Organizations like Compaq Global Services have whole practices devoted to creating certifiable configurations and getting through the certification for a specific installation, which includes all the things the user needs. Depending on those needs, they may or may not start with a reference configuration.