To: TigerPaw who wrote (1500 ) 1/18/2001 6:59:48 PM From: hobo Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486 Religious faith should be treated like any other peculiar belief, like astrology, or psychic friends, or UFO watchers. It should not have special scorn nor special privledge. yes, except that.... do astrologers try to convert you or convince you (more than say, three times), that you should listen to their predictions.... AND if you do not listen tell you you are going to HELL ? <particularly to small children > probably not. do the psychic friends you mention try to distribute articles of propaganda about their beliefs in every opportunity they can, particularly if their targets are children ? probably not. do UFO watchers have organizations like the Opus Dei plotting for control of the mind under the veil of secrecy of the backdoor dealings that they do, as they did under the government of Francisco Franco in Spain ? (and continue doing it today) probably not. praying is nothing but a pretext to start the "programing" at a young age. their real aim is total control of the human mind. for that religious extremist should be scorn. at the very least, a safe distance should be kept so those who are not interested in listening, do not have to.the same as you can not smoke in public, since there are lots of non-smokers who do not want to get the air everyone breaths polluted by those who smoke, religious preaching and propaganda should be kept to its proper boundaries, so the mind of young children who belong to families that have no interest in getting their minds polluted with the religious ideology smokers, can fill their lungs with cancer smoke. religious people, can fill their mind with fallacies, guilt and fantasy stories. everything in the proper place.mond.at 6. Q: What are the negative things in Opus Dei? A: In short: The Fascist ideology in Escriva's teachings. The fundamentalism. The Intolerance towards other religions. The dishonesty. The danger inherent in the undemocratic structure of blindly following orders. The danger inherent in the psychological control they have of their members due to the ``weekly chat'' where they have to tell the innermost details of their souls to their spiritual leaders. The aggressive and manipulative way in which they try to catch new members. The evil character of the founder. The fact that they do not reveal their true goals and keep a lot of material secret from the public. The smug thinking of belonging to an elite. <snip> 6.2 Q: Why are they Fascistic? A: The term ``Fascist'' has created some confusion. The ideology of Opus Dei has all the features commonly found in the abstract political category of ``fascism'' even though it is a very special form of this ideology, since it is mixed with elements of the Christian religion. Reading Escriva's book ``The Way'' with the above definition of fascism in mind, it is evident that he is the perfect Fascist. Here are some indicators: In #849 he directly states that he is against Voltair's ideas. Fascist loathe Liberty: They have this law and order mentality: every thing should be under the control of the leaders. Large chapters in the book are about leadership and blind obedience. I guess Hitler would have loved this book. (read #56 till #80) Of course, they want to control the information you get. Like in #339: You shall not buy books without the advice of an experienced Christian. It is so easy to buy something useless or mischievous. Often people believe they are carrying a book under their arm ... but they only carry a load of mud. (Josemaria Escriva, The Way, #339) More about the OPUS DEI:mond.at