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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lane3 who wrote (1610)1/19/2001 10:32:59 AM
From: hobo  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486
 
Good morning Karen,

i am glad you liked the article...

statistics can be helpful in assessing the reality of whatever is it that we are looking. yes, i know, they can be "massaged" as well.

So far, this has not altered black voting patterns. But other ethnic groups are following the trail, first blazed by Italians, Poles and others, away from identity politics and towards assimilation. One-third of Latinos voted Republican. In Texas, the figure was 43%; in Florida, 50%. And there you can see the political affiliations reversing. Cubans in the city of Miami have traditionally voted Republican. The younger generations who have left for the suburbs of Broward County, to the north, are more Democratic. Cutting across the divide between the two cultures is a different pattern: the growth of a large, tolerant, middle-class suburbia.

That is sometimes used to suggest that America is split only shallowly, rather than deeply. But that does not do justice to the evidence of cultural division. It would be better to think of America as a bell shape. At the edges are the two sharp tails of the cultural and social divide. In the middle is a bulge of moderate opinion. The test of Mr Bush’s presidency will be whether he marginalises the centre and encourages the tails, or whether he ignores the tails and appeals to the centre, as his campaign promised to do.


soon we will see what type of leader Bush will be. the comforting factor is that as the article seems to indicate the "moderate opinion" represents the majority.

the next step is to see if a reasonable middle ground on the different issues that appear to be more divisive than the statistics in the article seem to indicate. (at least on a "general opinion basis"). the heated debate is obviously fueled by the extremes on both sides which are more vocal.

i liked this part too:

But of all the determinants of voting behaviour, religion was the most precise. The more often voters went to church, the more likely they were to vote Republican. Of those who never go, 61% chose Mr Gore, 32% Mr Bush. For those who go more than once a week, the votes were reversed (see chart "Godly v ungodly", above). It is almost a perfect fit. Mr Barone points out that Mr Gore won the two counties with the lowest church-going rates, Manhattan and Los Angeles County, by margins comparable to the biggest Democratic landslide in recent history (Lyndon Johnson’s defeat of Barry Goldwater in 1964). Yet Mr Bush won Montana, Wyoming and Idaho by rates approaching the biggest Republican landslide in recent history, Richard Nixon’s defeat of George McGovern in 1972.

Put these patterns together. As Bill McInturff, a Republican pollster, told the Washington Post: “We have two massive colliding forces. One is rural, Christian, religiously conservative. [The other] is socially tolerant, pro-choice, secular, living in New England and the Pacific coast.” Miss Himmelfarb could hardly have put it better herself.


talking about the godless/godly extremes...

indeed the NUTZZ are at the extremes don't you agree ?

on the godless side, perhaps they are all concentrated in the land of Hollywood, making crazy movies about unthinkable themes...

on the godly side, surely one cannot but think of the Unabomber, the Freemen and all those white-spremacists of Idaho & Montana...

do you see a pattern here ? i mean.... all those Hollywood types buying land & ranches in the open lands of Idaho, Montana & Wyoming ....?

perhaps we will witness a new re-colonization of the American rural West...

or...

the Hollywood types get their crazy ideas from their cousins, the NUTZZ from rural America...

think about it -ggg-

p.s. i forgot to include you as one of the posters that is teaching me about patience. you are probably the one with the highest amount. no doubt a slip on my part.