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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (123069)	1/21/2001 9:39:55 PM
From: d.taggart	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Nadine did the dems not have 500 legal panhandlers on call weeks before the election, and the plan was to do exactly what they did in floriduh. It`s just a shame that the brainiacs involved were all so into their own little evil world of jj,network news,Larry Flynt etc. that they forgot one thing,there are laws in this countrty,NOW if jj will go back to bangin his sec. and Bill will find a nice liitle playmate in the park and reality invades the brains of brokaw,rather and jennings we have a shot a 4 years of togetherness and forward thinking.Kids passing third grade in poor areas of the country still can`t read even after Bil/hillary`s talk,they just stole the kids future by giving the money to unions for votes,did not help one child!

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (123069)	1/22/2001 7:56:35 AM
From: Selectric II	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Such fantastic historical revisionism! It was the Democrats who had a re-count plan laid out well before the election even took place, expecting Florida to be close and possibly pivotal. It was the Democrats who chartered airplanes and flew 200 lawyers and investigators into Florida right after the polls closed. It was the Democrats who carefully selected their stronghold counties to re-count, thereby triggering the small variations in a few precincts that were incorrectly extrapolated county-wide and state-wide to make a small number look large. It's almost a patented process, developed by the Daley machine decades ago. The Supreme Court, when finally given the issue to decide, determined 7-2 that it violated the Equal Protection clause of the United States Constitution. Republicans cannot and did not create impossible legal hurdles. The United States Constitution did. You shouldn't let your rabid partisanship completely blind you to the facts.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (123069)	1/22/2001 8:15:47 AM
From: Zoltan!	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

ANOTHER 226 VOTES FOR BUSH: Don't hold your breath for the New York Times or the Washington Post to report this, but today's Naples Daily News reports on the results of their hand-recount of all uncounted ballots in Collier County, Florida. If you count every thing from dimples to pin-pricks, Bush gains an extra 770 votes to Gore's extra 544. No big surprise in heavily Republican Collier, and a slight confirmation of Mickey Kaus's "sloppy Dem thesis," and Sullivan's Law, which argues that Democrats are disproportionately likely to screw up their votes, especially if they're female or elderly or black. Gore got 41 percent of the dimpled votes for the two major candidates and 33 percent of the real votes in Collier. Nevertheless, W still gained votes, even with sloppy Dems, which suggests that outside Democratic strongholds, Gore may well not have enough dimples, pin-pricks etc to pull ahead in a media recount (barring of course, the "over-votes," which in most places on earth are known as spoiled ballots). The extra 226 Collier votes, after all, is almost half W's state-wide victory, an impressive number, and shows the logic behind the Gore team's effort to recount only in their own counties. They were worried that their own attempt to win the election might go awry if they allowed every county a hand-recount. Even so, Miami-Dade came up dry, and it even helped W. Bottom line: Florida wasn't stolen by anyone. It was nearly stolen by someone. And that someone wasn't Bush. - 1/20/2001 05:24:50 PM andrewsullivan.com

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (123069)	1/22/2001 9:12:07 AM
From: Don Pueblo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Nadine, at the time Mr. Gore first "suggested" a statewide recount, the Florida state law deadline for such had passed. There was no legal way that a statewide recount could have occurred. Mr. Gore knew this; that's why he "suggested" it. It was a simple PR move, and it worked on you. In fact, his "suggestion" for a state-wide recount was toned down the second time he suggested it publicly for that very reason. If you want to argue, a better argument is that Mr. Gore won the popular vote nationwide. He lost the popular vote in Florida. That's the reason he challenged the entire election in the first place. He never wanted a full state recount in Florida, because he would have lost such a recount. He knew this; that's the reason he had his attorneys challenge the military write-in votes in Florida. Had he wanted a full state recount in Florida, he would have asked for one before the legal (state) deadline. In spite of the best efforts of his buddies like Judge Lee and Suzanne Gunzberger to illegally throw the vote his way, and his attorneys illegally challenging the votes of Florida military personel overseas, he still lost the state.