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To: Lane3 who wrote (2118)1/22/2001 3:52:48 AM
From: Dayuhan  Respond to of 82486
 
Interesting. Perhaps I shall have to read it. Ghastly thought.

I saw another study that argued that we can't measure education since the highest ed in this country is more the acquisition of technical knowledge than education in th classical sense of the word so we can't correlate atheism and education.

I suppose there could be some debate over how education is defined. It might be interesting for somebody - somebody who isn't me - to compare rates of atheism among the classically educated to those among the technically educated.



To: Lane3 who wrote (2118)1/22/2001 4:05:30 AM
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 

This international study found no correlation between education and atheism and that atheists tended to have been such all their lives.

The study actually says:

83% of the Hard Core Atheists say they never believed in God, 61% say they never attended church services when they were eleven or twelve years old and 9% more say they only rarely attended.

That is not exactly "all their lives" in the sense that it would be if the people in question were raised as atheists. It suggests that a conscious choice was made, but that it was made at an early age; too early, I admit, for education to have much to do with it.

I decided that I was an atheist at around the age of 12, but I think it was less a matter of deciding that I didn't believe - and my parents were quite religious - than of realizing that I had never really believed.

Odd. I wonder if some people are just born unconvinced, and come to realize it in pre-adolescence.

If we could prove that atheism was genetically transmitted, and thus inherent in some individuals, do you think the religious right would approve the use of genetic manipulation to "correct" this condition?

Weird world.

An odd document, that study, and really very badly written. I should offer them my services, though I doubt that they could afford me. Unless they have a grant....



To: Lane3 who wrote (2118)1/22/2001 12:39:19 PM
From: cosmicforce  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
I would think that education leads to agnosticism and not atheism. I don't think any other position is all that defensible in terms of pure logic. An atheist who is absolutely sure about their position is forced to prove a negative (namely, there is no god) which as all you logic buffs know is an impossible task. If you BELIEVE in no god, then you've gone back to belief (although I know the atheists will assert Occam's Razor in their defense).