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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Poet who wrote (2159)	1/22/2001 10:49:35 AM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I didn't give my pov, I was hoping you'd share yours so we could discuss it.

To: Poet who wrote (2159)	1/22/2001 11:04:06 AM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 82486

Specifically, what would be the harm, if any, of teaching oral sex in the schools? Before this discussion gets too far along, can we clarify what is meant by "taught." Are we talking about technique, or an explanation of terms, or a message about the worth of the activity? Or what? I'm sorry if this is a dumb question but I went to school in the days before sex-ed. Karen EDIT--Forget it. While I was composing, you guys were already answering my questions.

To: Poet who wrote (2159)	1/22/2001 12:04:18 PM
From: hobo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

given the fact that the proponents of this discussion can't articulate anything worth to be readable... i will give you my opinion in re: sex education in school benefits and pitfalls. first off i think that sex education is a great positive and here is why: i would assume that as a good parent, sex education would begin far before attending school. i part from the view that there should be nothing wrong to start educating children with the real facts (i.e. i think it is rather stupid to say: "children are brought by the stork", or worse avoid the issue all together) why ? because sex is part of our bodies and our functions, the more we know at a younger age, the better prepared we will be at a later age to understand that a lesson about this issue is no different than learning about personal hygiene. a child's mind is like a clean slate, no prejudices exist. these will be brought by his/her immediate sphere of influence, and start with parents and relatives. why in our society sex (at least in the past), has been seen as taboo ? not many parents discussed sex with their children... the "learning method" was with friends, and most of it was probably speculation or trial and error. my opinion is that this is due to (again), the religious influence upon their families, and the particular view that religion seems to attach to sex and women. why do i say so ? start with the even MORE IDIOTIC tale that JC was "magically" conceived on a VIRGIN. what ? no coitus ? or was it "in vitro" ? pleaseeeeeeee anyway.. let's not deviate. if the child has already received some kind of sex education by the parents... then the sex education in school can only improved the knowledge the child will have. in addition, the fact that sex is discussed in class does not mean that the parent should not continue to be involved as part of the education. here i can see an add-on benefit that if parents are encouraged to participate, the possibility that a potential sex-abuse situation could be avoided (i made a similar comment earlier), since such communication and exposure to third parties, could serve as a deterrent to the potential abuser. as for the specifics of how to show it, and to what extent. i am sure that there would be movies either produced or already produced that professional actors (and i am sure willing ones), would be happy to make. the main thing is to view this as a serious matter and with maturity. the posts by we-know-who-already are a perfect show of stupidity about how sex education is approached. the main pitfall that i could see is that some teachers could have the same idiotic mentality as i described above from some posters and therefore the original intent would fail. in addition, while the entire thing lends itself to the possibility that a criminal mind amongst the teacher could attempt to take advantage of the children. this last possibility could be well supervised so as to avoid it, on top of having screened the teachers so they have the proper credentials to impart this type of education. also.... unfortunately there may be families that may not have taught their children at an early age, while it does present a problem in terms that the child could be shy and even apprehensive, with proper counseling (including the parents), this would be overcome and in become a benefit since the children would learn. now... this is about sex education not about styles of how to perform sexual acts. yes, it can be mentioned however it is not the focus of the program. either way an open, (and mature), attitude is a requisite. no different than learning math or geography. only mental midgets cannot see this. it amazes me the degree of stupidity of some p.s. instead of questioning sex education, one has to wonder what would be the sex life of those who question sex education.... (this is a personal observation, and not part of any sex education program).

To: Poet who wrote (2159)	1/22/2001 12:14:09 PM
From: hobo	Respond to of 82486

re: sex education, (continued) a couple of even more important benefits is that we could assist to reduce teenage pregnancies, which no doubt are all unwanted. and... it make teenagers THINK about serious relations and its consequences. it could also achieve make the male side more sensitive to the woman side. what it represents to carry a baby for 9 months and ensuing responsibilities and so on. in short, the potential, (in my opinion small), risks are worth taking given the clear improvement from current standards. (and actual experiences).