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To: Road Walker who wrote (125772)1/22/2001 1:26:24 PM
From: pgerassi  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Dear John:

In Milwaukee, they demolished 8-10 city blocks to put in a highway spur that is now going to be itself demolished. To stop flood damage along a river that floods every few years, they bought 20 some homes and leveled them (or the owner moved it to higher ground). It may be a problem in your area, but here a few land owners would complain but, are overruled by the community at large when it is recognized that the planned routing is necessary or makes sense.

For light rail (at ground level), Milwaukee had a viable electric streetcar line until the late 60's when cars and buses became preferred (mostly due to great discounts on new buses and the unsightly overhead lines). Since they were run on the street or in corridors currently used for HV power lines (hey the same company WEPCO did both), reintroducing such a system but with self powered trains is a whole lot easier here. Most interest is to make a commuter line ala Chicago RTA using existing freight track with some extensions like to the new stadium.

With commutes taking upward of two hours, RTA like systems are best done with existing freight lines as a starter and building them out as demand rises. What happens when BART puts in a new station in SF? Probably causes a burst of office towers, hotels, and shopping centers around it. Then ringed with lots of high density residential housing (assuming that the land surrounding is empty (fields, plains, and forests)) promoted to workers as a way to beat the "RUSH" for a hefty premium.

Given that kind of thing, wouldn't the next thing to happen is some developer (or group of developers) plans a whole community and puts in the station and connecting track for BART at some reduced cost (or later no cost) to BART? Yes, some planning and cooperation is required but, perhaps this is the way to reduce those impacts to the environment, energy, and people's wallets and free time.

Pete