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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TH who wrote (2404)	1/22/2001 8:20:08 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

By your logic, would it be acceptable to you if I labeled you a commie? Eh??!! That doesn't follow. Commies do the same kind of thing. It is the E in RWE or LWE that I object to.

To: TH who wrote (2404)	1/23/2001 1:08:18 PM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 82486

Hi,Thurston. Thank you for distracting the thread from the barfights, at least for a little while. Sorry to assume, again, that you were/are a Democrat. Its just we are on the LWP debate thread and I expect to get some Democrat action. I couldn't help but notice your focus on political parties. I've been around here since the beginning and, while comments about Reps and Dems come up, they're generally incidental to the discussion of issues. Left and right wing are not necessarily the same as Dem and Rep, although they've become more so lately. I don't fall prey to noise in my arguments. Focusing on the party rather than the philosophy or the issue adds a texture to the discussion that I think detracts from an open and honest discussion of the issue. Your point about unions and gays, for example, is well taken but it is, in your words, noise in any discussion of either right-to-work or the normalcy of homosexuality. The conversation is often about Reps and Dems, but I don't think it's helpful to make the conversation between Dems and Reps. That is a very sound policy. I would like to say I do the same, but I don't. I always find that the Republican represents my views the best. Many of us, like me, do not find a permanent home in either of the major parties. This election, I couldn't even find a temporary home in either of them. Framing the discussion in partisan terms leaves out a lot of people who would like to participate in and who can contribute to the discussion. Interesting, I have a friend who is very high up in my states Lib party (which isn't saying too much -g-). I am going to ask for some his views about acceptance of homosexuals. Its never really come up, and we have covered many topics in his efforts to get me on board. I hope you'll do that and report what your friend has to say. Marginalizing gays is inconsistent with the basic live-and-let-live premise of libertarianism. I have my problems with the far right, but at the same time I want to extend my line in the middle to include more. Of course those on the far right have issue with this. I look forward to hearing more about this from your perspective. I have a personal interest since it's the religious right that stands irrevocably between me and a Republican embrace. Personal freedom from a Democrat has always interested me. A discussion for another evening. I think that you would find that true freedom lives elsewhere. Again, my party is the party of freedom. Yours is the party of freedom only when a certain group needs that message to be moved to secure the office. For the same reason, I'd be interested in hearing more of your thinking on this. My observation is that each party supports some freedoms and not others as it suits them but that members of each party think their party is the party of freedom. Karen