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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: E who wrote (2435)	1/23/2001 12:12:59 AM
From: TH	Respond to of 82486

E, I mean no offense. What color is the sky most of the time? There is much in this simple question, regarding the position you have presented in your two posts to me. I have encountered this type of discussion before, and it always ends the same; someone takes their toys and goes home. I hope it is different this time. There is one huge error in your logic. It is the fact that a homosexuals genes do not get passed on. It is a sad reality. With a 100 million combinations on the DNA, to argue that a recessive trait, that will not get passed on if the dominate tendency (to have sex with the same sex) is exclusively expressed, is absurd. I elect to look at your statement as an example, and not one that offers any specific and potential advantage of homosexuality. You also don't provide any real reason why homosexuality offers some advantage, other than it is a secondary effect of this true recessive gene, which has some yet undefined value to the life form. I will be more than happy to discuss a valid topic, but this appears to be little more than wishful thinking. A better question would be, why is so important that homosexuality is validated by biology? An excuse perhaps. A reason to blame? In any event the sky is blue, most of the time. It is seldom green, and almost never aqua. My point is this, you can elect to see reality or you can invent your own. Just don't expect the people who are really looking for those few little things in this life, that can be truly be labeled "reality" to agree with you. Life has but one goal. To make more life. We live, we die, life wants to make more life, the universe is really big. That is about as long as my list is. You are going to have to give me a better reason than you have, to convince me this is wrong. As for my statement on "normal", either I didn't explain myself well enough, or you didn't read all my posts. If you did you would see that I am not arguing that "normal" is in fact "normal". I actually offered that there is really no such thing as normal, and that is was really just a term for the preference of the majority. If you want to fight city hall, that is your right. I just know there are lots of better ways to spend your time. I have often tried to understand what a homosexual must feel like when confronted with the labels society imposes. Of course I will never know (at least I am pretty confident I don't think I'll ever know -g-), and it must be a daily burden. I can't blame the homosexuals for wanting to fight their war, its just that I never fight wars I can't win, but I almost always win those I know I can. I think I addressed most of your points in both posts. Sorry, but I have to call it a night. I look forward to further discussion. HAGO TH

To: E who wrote (2435)	1/23/2001 3:36:11 PM
From: YlangYlangBreeze	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

if the gene that predisposes to homosexuality is associated with a genetic characteristic that has certain survival advantages for the genes of the homosexual" An example of this would be sickle cell anemia, a recessive trait that is linked with malaria resistance. So recessive sickle cell might be considered quite functional under certain conditions. "In Africa, as many as 4 out of 10 people have the sickle cell anemia gene. In parts of Africa where lots of people had sickle cell anemia, malaria was also very common. Researchers found that people who had a single copy of the sickle cell hemoglobin gene(heterozygous) didn't die of malaria as often as people who were homozygous for the normal hemoglobin gene. So people who had two sickle cell hemoglobin genes died of sickle cell anemia, and people who two normal genes died of malaria, but those with one of each gene lived to pass on the sickle cell hemoglobin gene to their children. As a result, the disease continues. " bioweb.ncsa.uiuc.edu Another case would be my grandmother, who having lived to the age of 97 would appear to have "great genes." One big problem. She had three sibs that died of muscular dystrophy before they were old enough to procreate. So it's a helluva gene roulette. (My grandmother chose not to bear children, but rather adopted my mother.)