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To: haqihana who wrote (32407)	1/23/2001 1:23:51 AM
From: Jamey	Respond to of 39621

Your'e a raving lunatic! You just told me and everybody you were an AA member and went to numerous meetings and then you turn around and say you don't believe in the guiding belief of AA! "I consider calling alcoholism a disease a cop out. All alcoholics made the decision to drink. That is not a disease. It is a failure to make the correct decision, and should be treated as such." Hacki I'm cutting out for now. I don't want you to show your ass in front of the world. Santiago

To: haqihana who wrote (32407)	1/23/2001 3:10:21 PM
From: Neenny	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Haqi, I appreciate your making the effort to reply to me. Although, you missed the point of my comparison. What I was asking you to do, was to use words to describe your mother, that would reflect her parenting failures as reflected in the struggles in your life. As you did to Bill Clinton's mom. You called her a ________, because of the lack of moral character her son displayed. My point being I don't see you degrading your own mother because of the short comings in her parenting. As parents we do the best we can with the circumstances we are up against. My mom is sexually one of the most moral people I have ever met in my entire life. But guess what.....everyone of her children had at one point strayed from the moral beliefs she tried to instill in us. The explanation of your own failings illustrates my point perfectly. In your reply you describe some of the things that were instilled in you as a child that you needed to get over, yet you say you accept full responsibility for your actions and your battle with alcoholism. You do not put the blame on your mother or anyone else. I agree you are the person responsible for you actions. By the same standard, Bill Clinton's mother may have been a lot of things...but your accusing and name calling of her is out of line, unless you have facts to back it up. Bill Clinton is solely responsible for his infidelity. I believe we are products of our environment, and I know our parents influence who and what we become. But the final account of who and what we are, lies on our own shoulders. Your deductive logic regarding Bill Clinton's mom does not follow basic reasoning. Jane