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To: AugustWest who wrote (19738)	1/24/2001 8:05:23 AM
From: David	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 26039

Yes, you're too paranoid because you are too ignorant of the technology. Since they aren't capturing enough information to use fingerprint images in a database, they cannot store information about the prints in a way that would allow undeclared enrollees to be identified. It only works (1) in a one to few application, or in an application where the person being authenticated first provides his or her name; it doesn't work for any police databases anywhere, and it can't.

To: AugustWest who wrote (19738)	1/24/2001 9:24:28 AM
From: stockman17	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 26039

Hi AW, I have enjoyed your posts from the CKFR thread for a while now. I think that what you say has some merit in that I believe the government will keep as complete and total tabs on us regardless of what they say they do. I also believe that, fingerprints or not, they can do it now. They can do it especially well if you use credit cards, or your telephone, or a computer, or a fast-toll transponder, or a toaster for that matter (have you taken apart your toaster recently to see what's inside). OK, so maybe I'm getting a bit paranoid - lol. With this particular application I don't fear any abuse of privacy. Also, consider one of the bigger potential uses for this technology, the credit card protected by biometrics. What you will have is a template of your fingerprint - the same "points" the article spoke of - on the card. When you use the card I figure you will swipe it and instead of signing you will present your finger to a scanner on the swipe machine which authorizes the purchase. There really isn't any additional information an abusive government can get from that since they already would have your card tagged. I believe that our privacy is important but I am of a more fatalistic bent and figure that we already don't have any. Cynical, I know, but probably true. Regards, Stockman17

To: AugustWest who wrote (19738)	1/25/2001 3:15:04 AM
From: steve	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 26039

AugustWest "Does everyone here think I'm just too paranoid?" Yup, just like these folks that responded to the story... geek.com Minutia cannot be reversed engineered PERIOD!!! see below . . . . .. . . . ........ ..... . .. . . .. . . . . .. . . .. ........ . Now, Is that my fingerprint? Yours? Davids'? Connect the dots... oh ya, almost forgot, The formula that figures out what the pattern is..... it changes for each reading. So you only get one guess to match that "fingerprint" to somebody. steve ps, Don't worry too much about David, He just likes to argue... It's the lawyer in him, he just can't help himself <g> He's really a nice guy... really!!