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To: Joe NYC who wrote (130737)	1/24/2001 11:06:56 PM
From: stribe30	Respond to of 1570844

Again.. I dont know how often I have to repeat this.. but my ideology is my own.. Quite frankly.. most of my profs were of the conservative type mindset.. and none were hippies... My political influence comes mostly from reading and following Pierre Trudeau up here.. that is my biggest influence... not everything I think is the same as his... but it guides my line of thinking. And I was offended whether you believe so or not.. a) because of that reference.. and b) to the veiled hint I've led a sheltered life and cant comment on the outside world. I follow current events and read more political essays and news commentary then most on here I would daresay.

To: Joe NYC who wrote (130737)	1/25/2001 12:16:10 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1570844

As for the veiled reference to the Native Peoples.. it was uncalled for.. quite frankly.. the way society has treated these people over the last 500 years.. particularly in the US.. I dont blame them if some dont wish to leave the reservation." It is a joke. But I guess it is just part of the PC storm trooper training - to pretend be offended about the lamest thing just to silence the ideological opposition, or at least to force them to tiptoe around any issue. It's just so transparent that it is actually funny. Joe, Your cynicism is remarkable but I can see how you might see that whole interaction with Scott as humorous. I think you reflect pretty accurately the two cultures you have told us make up your background...pre-wall Czechoslovakia and NYC. And I am sure you see some of the comments made by people including myself as the liberal preenings of an over indulged culture [North Americans] that don't have a clue as to what life is really like. However, I might suggest that your very black or white, insensitive at times commentary sounds as completely out of touch as ours does to you. I did LA which probably is as close to being like NYC as any other American city can be; in fact, when I was leaving, it seemed a lot of New Yorkers were moving in.......so I have experienced that level of cynicism and indifference to others and the concern with getting ahead. I know I am simplifying things here, and that New Yorkers would cringe upon hearing that their city was being compared to LA. But strip away the New Yorker's urbane veneer, and tan her/him up, and viola, you have an Angeleno. However the whole country/continent/world isn't that way.....and so the paradigm you express comes off somewhat arid and cynical, and a bit foreign....not that it changes anything but I thought it was worth pointing out. ted

To: Joe NYC who wrote (130737)	1/25/2001 11:02:15 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1570844

Joe, one of the posts that helped to get me suspeneded from a left wing discussion message base was my responding to a post condemning Reagan for his statement about the Soviet Union being outlawed and "We start bombing in 5 minutes". My response was that Reagan did not think the mike was open and he was making a joke. This struck horor in to some of the people who read my response. I didn't even say I thought it was a funny joke or that it was a wise thing to say, just that Reagan meant it as a joke, but apparently this was interpeted as me thinking the deaths of millions would be a funny topic. Tim