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To: Lane3 who wrote (3138)1/25/2001 5:23:26 PM
From: epicure  Respond to of 82486
 
yes it is
but I didn't expect any different
you are SUCH an optimist



To: Lane3 who wrote (3138)1/25/2001 5:39:06 PM
From: cosmicforce  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
Even in the ultimate of secular moments, zealots can't keep their mouth shut. That is the key difference. No one posed the question, "And Mr. President, do you still embrace the Lord Jesus Christ?". No, no one did that, but he jammed it in there anyway.



To: Lane3 who wrote (3138)1/25/2001 5:51:41 PM
From: Kid Rock  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
I just don't want to hear JC mentioned innumerable times in the same "ceremony" as his assertion that he
will be inclusive. It's rude, arrogant, hurtful, and hypocritical.


When did he mention JC innumerable times?

Could you explain why you think this is rude, arrogant, and hurtful?

Thanks



To: Lane3 who wrote (3138)1/25/2001 6:38:31 PM
From: PROLIFE  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486
 
I am sorry, that just sounds like sour grapes to me. You should be proud. You are able to freely choose. SO IS HE. Becoming President should not diminish his Christianity, it should spotlight it, and I hope it does. But I also know he is human. The first ""UN""Christian thing he does, I am sure some liberals will want to talk about it then, you think? It won't be "prsonal" then, huh?

Of course you also have the choice to attempt to move to one of the countries that don't abide Christianity. China..Sudan...



To: Lane3 who wrote (3138)1/25/2001 8:02:56 PM
From: Constant Reader  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486
 
Karen, for the record (and FYI), here is the invocation delivered at the 1997 inauguration:

The Rev. Billy Graham’s invocation
The inauguration invocation by the Rev. Billy Graham:

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President Clinton, Mrs. Clinton, Vice President Gore, Mrs. Gore, I’m going to ask that we all bow our heads in prayer.

Our Father and our God, we thank you today for the privilege of coming into your presence on this historic and solemn occasion. We thank you for your gracious hand which has preserved us as a nation. We praise you for the peaceful continuity of government that this inauguration represents.

We recall that the Bible says, “Except the Lord build a house, they labor in vain that build it.” He also said that to whom much has been given, much shall be required.

We look gratefully to the past and thank you that from the very foundations of America, you granted our forefathers courage and wisdom as they trusted in you.

So we ask today that you would inspire us by their example. Where there’s been failure, forgive us; where there’s been progress, confirm; where there’s been success, give us humility and teach us to follow your instructions more closely as we enter the next century. Give to all those to whom you have entrusted leadership today a desire to seek your will and to do it.

So today we ask your blessing on President Clinton and his wife, Hillary, and their daughter, Chelsea, and upon Vice President Gore and his wife, Tipper, and their children. Give to all our leaders the vision of what you desire America to become and the wisdom to accomplish it and the strength to cross the bridges into the 21st century. We pray also for the members of the House and the Senate, for the Supreme Court, and for all who bear responsibility of leadership in this nation, which is blessed with such ethnic diversity.

We have not solved all of the social problems of our time such as drugs and racism. Technology and social engineering have not solved the basic problems of human greed, pride, intolerance and selfishness. We need your insight, we need your compassion, we need your strength. As both President Clinton and Senator Dole urged us in the recent presidential campaign, may this be a time of coming together to help us deal with the problems we face. Oh, Lord, help us to be reconciled first to you and secondly to each other.

May Dr. Martin Luther King’s dream finally come true for all of us. Help us to learn our courtesy to our fellow countrymen, that comes from the one who taught us that “whatever you want me to do to you, do also to them.” Remind us today that you have shown us what is good and what you require of us: to do justly, to love mercy and to walk humbly with our God.

We ask that as a people, we may humble ourselves before you and seek your will for our lives and for this great nation. Help us in our nation to work as never before to strengthen our families and to give our children hope and a moral foundation for the future. So may our desire be to serve you and, in so doing, serve one another. This we pray in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen.



To: Lane3 who wrote (3138)1/25/2001 8:11:02 PM
From: Constant Reader  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
Finally, for the record: there is ONE reference to "Christ" in the 2001 invocation. There are FOUR references to "God" and NO references to "Jesus." The 1997 invocation contained TWO references to "God" and NO references to "Jesus" or "Christ."

For those who do not know, the '97 invocation was given by Billy Graham. The '01 was given by Franklin Graham, Billy Graham's son because the elder Graham was unable to attend.