To: Rambi who wrote (58378 ) 1/29/2001 4:16:16 AM From: nihil Respond to of 71178 Presenting a scientific paper at a respectable international meeting is joining the world of science. Today, such papers are published in abstract or in whole before the meeting and generally available on the net to anyone interested. At the meeting, the presenters (usually one per paper) discuss their papers and are criticized by experts. Some meetings have proceedings, volumes which include both the papers and the comments. These do not usually count as scientific publications (for purpose of promotion) but the prelinary paper must be rewritten, dealing with any cogent criticisms, and as well criticism of expert referees to whom the editor of the journal refers to proferred paper. If presentation is the important first baby step in establishing a scientific career, the beauty of your first journal publication is an adolescent stride. What does it mean? A young Ph.D. in a mediocre university, is expected to publish about six journal articles in his first few years as an assistant professor. If these are significant articles in important journals (the top 2 or 3 in any specific scientific field), the young professor may hope to receive tenure (if his teaching, service, and fund raising are adequate). Presentations themselves really count nothing in process (even if published in proceedings). Presentations are better than nothing, of course, and are quite impressive as foreshadowing the future for a college undergraduate. I would say that one such presentation virtually guarantees that CW can get into a top graduate school. He has already distinguished himself from most of the undergraduates at MIT and Stanford who will never accomplish this much. Notice how he was already overcome his nonadmission by Stanford. They were wrong. (Of course, we knew that already). For top universities, it is not so much the journal publication that counts, but the content of the articles. But regardless of genius, unless journal articles are published, it is almost impossible for a scientist to get into a good position. Einstein is the example here. He and his father tried everywhere in Europe to get a job as a physics docent. No luck. As soon as he starts publishing his papers on special relatively, Brownian movement, etc. he is flooded with offers. Meanwhile, he learned a lot about refrigeration as a clerk in the Swiss patent office (not that bad a job actually, is it Nick?). You should be proud as should CW. Does he still want to become CEO of a hitech firm, or would be be satisfied with a brilliant engineering and scientific career? Looks like he packs the goods. By the way, an "algorithm" is a recipe for a calculation. A good algorithm produces correct answers when such are available. It is robust, and hones in on the answer with as few iterations as possible. It is economical of computing resources. A good algorithm may be a permanent addition to man's knowledge. Despite the many great things contributed by the great mathematician Gauss, his method of least squares has probably been more important in practice than even differential geometry or the calculus of variations, developments of far greater imagination and complexity. Of course, even Doolittle was able to improve upon Gauss. Algorithms rule the roost for a limited period of time, and then are buried under mathematical progress. They form a necessary part of the history of applied mathematics. The edifice rises higher than it would have been without these foundations. So rejoice! You have given birth to one who helps lay another brick in the wall. May there be many more.