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To: gonzongo who wrote (11066)	1/28/2001 11:51:28 PM
From: TechTrader42	Respond to of 12039

I'm still waiting for a sincere apology, Gonzongo, though I don't imagine I'll ever get it. Others are, too. The overriding, overruling principle in that whole mess on that private mail list of yours was loyalty among a tightknit group of cronies. All other principles were thrown to the wind, as everyone bowed before one man's irrational, all-consuming grudge. And to think that most of it all stemmed from a trifling disagreement over the Clinton impeachment fiasco. How truly pathetic. Your irate pal wanted Kenny (who helped found the group) removed from the mail list, and he got his way, because none of you had the courage to stand up to him, and do what was right and fair, no matter how many appeals were made by members. You certainly owe an apology to the others involved. One day, somehow, somewhere, clean the slate. Separate yourself from the clan mentality for one brief moment and deliver the apology you owe people. Your group can continue to demonize those who stood up for what was right, but what you're left with is nothing but a shell of the old group, nothing but a hate group.

To: gonzongo who wrote (11066)	1/29/2001 12:08:40 AM
From: Ken Carter	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 12039

Andy, Let's list a few of your faults so that the "newbies can see them... Stabbing long time friends in the back, unability to admit when you are wrong. Unable to apologize for wrong doings and then ignoring them in hopes that they go away. following cut and pasters blindly thinking that if you ignore something, treat someone unfairly, and then pretending that you didn't hurt other people makes it OK. Especially people that once thought of you as a friend.... Telling people it's all water under the bridge but never admitting what you and your 5 clan members did was wrong.. What's really sad is that others were so blind, thinking that if they kept quiet, you guys would actually say something that they could make money with... guess that didn't happen either.. Friends stand up for friends,, I stood up for Brooke, I posted my thoughts,,, I was banned for it.. why? Don't worry, I'm not trying to get back into your Klan, I just want others to see you for what you are and stand for. Helping others?? I think not,,, your a follower,, whatever the "mayor" tells you to do.. you'll do.. You sold your friends for a hand out, and you'd do it again in a second... what are you going to do when davie and richard turn on you too.... they will too,,, just post a note disagreeing with them... you're only a delete key away... Go Jolly "friend" Ps,,, I would have stood up for you too andy, if the shoe had been on the other foot.. think about it..