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To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (58386)	2/1/2001 5:59:38 PM
From: nihil	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 71178

As for the southern seceders being evil, I think it is self evident. They managed to destroy themselves and their bogus culture. [What did the slave-owning South ever produce that is worth keeping? A poem? A song? A book? An idea? The few nice derivative buildings were borrowed from European architects and build by slaves.] Certainly the vacuity of Soutern culture bears comparison to the Nazis. Suicide (like murder) is against the moral law, and any course of action that predictably leads to the death of the actor is morally suicide. It is almost funny to read of the fools leading the confederacy discovering that they had few weapons, factories, or friends. Was there a single rational person involved in secession? The South Carolina convention was unanimous for secession. The people never voted on it. The fools hoped that England would protect them to get cotton. The fools thought that their drunken, tobacco chewing peasants could beat the Army that the Union could put in the field. The fools had not the knowledge or ability to win a war that they had not prepared for. I know that you are an apologist for secession. I don't know if you are an apologist for slavery. I do not believe in historical inevitability. I think that people are held responsible by history for their acts long after it does any good. I don't think we can punish the dead. But we certainly can say that they were wrong, and that being wrong and on the wrong side of history, is imo the essence of evil. If I knew that my acts would bring death, pain, and suffering to millions, I would avoid those acts. Even the strongly held belief that wonderful things would flow from those acts would not justify my inflicting such injuries on mankind. The fire eaters had convinced themselves that they had to secede, some hell or high water. They wee not interested in discussion. They were wrong, and they had to be killed. You seem to believe that they were not evil and had a right to be wrong. I think you are just as evil and wrong as I think the fire eaters were. I believe that you are morally equivalent to the holocaust deniers. To justify secession in order to extend slavery and the horrors of civil war that the seceders caused is to justify the extirmination of millions of people. It is the moral equivalence of slaveowners starting a war in order to preserve and extend slavery and the Nazis' murder of millions of Jews, Gypsies, Communists, homosexuals, and retard people that requires bringing the Nazis into any discussion of secession. Perhaps if you can't stand the heat, you might change you mind. I however, will discuss anything with anyone, even if I am convinced that the person with whom I argue is evil or a fool.