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To: Gopher Broke who wrote (27120)	2/1/2001 11:54:31 AM
From: fyodor_	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Gopher: $5K may be small change for a big software company, but I can't see the OpenSource Linux community getting excited about porting to x86-64 if they have to pay $5K for the emulator. Let the OpenSource Linux community speak for themselves. From the x86-64 discussion mailing list (x86-64.org): (Disclaimer: there's a lot of static in this particular thread) Anonymous Coward: http://www.amd.com/news/prodpr/21003.html virtutech.com When will "VirtuHammer" be available from x86-64.org? Pavel Machek: Hmm, probably never. It is far away from free software. Anonymous Coward: So people are stuck with AMD's dog-slow and crippled simulator. Yuck. Maybe Transmeta should release SoftHammer? Pavel Machek: I wish someone wrote bochs support... Mats Petersen (Software Engineer @ AMD) Dear Anonymous, If you could send me details of: 1) Who you are. 2) Which company/organisation you work for. 3) What project you are working on. (Or, at least, what type of product(s)) 4) A non-anonymous e-mail address. I'd appreciate the help, and I can assure you that any information will be kept completely confidential by AMD. The reason I ask this, is that if I know who I'm talking to, I'd be much happier to answer questions. Of course, send this to ME, not to the Forum... Andi Kleen: And when he/she continues to send to the list please use a real name. -Andi (who also doesn't like to talk to unnamed people) Mats Petersen; Andi, Whilst I agree, I can also understand, sometimes, that it's not a 100% good idea to talk to the general public giving out the full name of oneself. In particular on a forum like this, where anyone, from any company, could be "listening", and if you are working for a private organisation, rather than a Free Software organisation, you may not want to discuss things in the public. In particular, if you work for a company with a small product range, where the company name is familiar to the general public, etc. I can't think of a good example right now, but I can sure say that there are possible situation where the fact that some company is working on some new technology may be a disadvantage to the company and it's employees. It's also quite easy to get a false/anonymous e-mail address that can not be traced, for instance via various "free e-mail servers", so it shouldn't REALLY be a problem to have at least an e-mail address the person can be reached on. Anyway, it's enough on this subject. I can see why someone doesn't want to talk to an open, unknown group, but I also think, in general, you should be open with who you are, and not hide your identity. Sometimes the two can't fit in a good compromise. Andi Kleen: I think in the case you're describing private email should be used. It's usually possible to find out the necessary email addresses without exposing yourself. Sending anonymous mail to a public mailing list is imho just bad manners. Richard Brunner (AMD): Dear Anonymous, We can't shed any more information about this question at this time. For more information, please contact: [edited out - a list of some folks at Virtutech] Jason: [unknown] In that case AMD should tell CNET to correct the false statements made in the following article: yahoofin.cnet.com "Advanced Micro Devices has released a Linux version of a simulator application to help programmers write software for its upcoming 64-bit chips. [...] The simulation software from AMD, called VirtuHammer, will help programmers simulate the upcoming chips on existing computers." And yes, I'm with anonymous@coward.com on this. AMD's SimNow! is too slow and too crippled, while VirtuHammer is to expensive for a small company like mine. This is not how you win developers. :( EOM -fyo