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To: Lane3 who wrote (4480)	2/2/2001 8:04:19 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Ok- I think this is the problem. I think Solon is using rights as morality. I can respect the personal morality of his rights, but I would not call them rights, because my understanding of rights and duties is decoupled from my understanding of morality. Would you agree with that?

To: Lane3 who wrote (4480)	2/3/2001 2:00:04 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Sorry, I can't get my head around your premise. I don't see how a right is either moral or immoral. So I can't get beyond that in your argument Dear Karen, You are such a trooper! I know exactly where you are coming from, and I don't know of any quick way for us to meet on the bridge without taking a number of steps. Every right that you consider a right, I consider a violation of rights, and an oppression of human beings. I can get my head around your ideas, so please indulge me. Do you acknowledge the existence of the words "moral" and "principle", and do you acknowledge that they have a meaning? If you believe there are moral principles--could you give me an example--and a reason why it is both moral and a principle? Would you give me an example of one human right, as you understand the term? If we are going to have a meaningful discussion, we need to start on the same page, and we need to focus on one thing at a time. I am only too willing to defer to you.