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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Srexley who wrote (125112)	2/2/2001 9:53:07 PM
From: O'Hara	Respond to of 769670

><>...PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH....BLessed of God!!..><> A leader and a Gentleman...and is truly blessed by God† The light of God shines through this man in a multitude of ways....A great leader indeed!! 1 Chr 13:1-4 1 And David consulted with the captains of thousands and hundreds, and with every leader. 2 And David said unto all the congregation of Israel, If it seem good unto you, and that it be of the LORD our God, let us send abroad unto our brethren every where, that are left in all the land of Israel, and with them also to the priests and Levites which are in their cities and suburbs, that they may gather themselves unto us: 3 And let us bring again the ark of our God to us: for we inquired not at it in the days of Saul. 4 And all the congregation said that they would do so: for the thing was right in the eyes of all the people. America, America....God shed His grace on thee!! Have a most peaceful evening all of you Shalom...><>

To: Srexley who wrote (125112)	2/2/2001 11:06:58 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 769670

Hi Scott, I'm waiting for Mark's next post too. I base my belief that the FSC-ordered recount was legal on the statute that says in a contest, the losing candidate is entitled to a recount if "enough legal votes have not been counted to put the outcome of the election in doubt". Clearly the case here, even just counting the 60,000 + undervotes. And the FSC has the right to determine the remedy. Usually. Regarding the FL irregularities, this again is where I don't have a lot of sympathy. Actually seems kind of unfair to try to fix them afterwards with the election of the U.S. president hanging in the balance. Well, as I've noted before, case law is against you on this one. As Mark quoted in his post, the law instructs the canvassing boards to find voter intent, not just say "the machine didn't count it, forget about it." As for fairness, are you saying that if you can a) demonstrate irregularities, and b) demonstrate that those irregularities favored one candidate over the other, it is therefore more unfair to remedy the irregularities that can be remedied than to leave them in place? Why? yet you feel that 100's of people with different backgrounds and ideals can count MILLIONS of votes with a greater accuracy than the margin of victory I didn't say that. First, they only needed to count the machine-rejected ballots, 60,000 or 180,000 votes, not millions. Second, they didn't have to prove greater accuracy than the margin of victory, just greater accuracy than the machine count alone. Counting the legal votes in the undervote and overvote is more accurate than ignoring them. Third "100's of people with different backgrounds and ideals" is an advantage -- the different subjectivities brought to bear are likely to wash each other out. What made it unfair are the attempted race riots, the inflammation of the PB ballots, etc. It's always easier to note the spin from the other side. I think we can set Republican disorders against Democratic disorder step by step in this one. I think the Republicans edged out the Democrats because a) disorder was part of their strategy, b) they had the local law firms, c) they had most of the local government officials. The Democrats had out-of-state lawyers and the media only. The Republican guns were heavier.