To: Joe NYC who wrote (131399 ) 2/3/2001 8:05:24 PM From: tejek Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1570977 The so called "energy crises" could be solved overnight, if the State let's the power companies charge market rates. When people realize that their electric bill that used to be $100 will be $400, the energy consumption will drop immediately. And in summer when people use air conditioners, well, some people will think twice, some won't even be able to afford it even if they wanted it. Joe, In some places that's not as effective as you might think. S. CA in the early 90's there was a drought and water rationing was imposed. The authorities did exactly what you suggested...when consumption reached a certain level, rates jumped....and when consumption reached another level, stiff fines were imposed. I think water consumption dropped by 20% overall. However there were many people who could afford the higher rates and even the fines, and they did so. It was unbelievable to me....the hubris. And, of course, the way you knew they were exceeding their limit is that their lawns were green all year round. Nonetheless, good came out of the drought.....you now are required to put in low flush toilets in any new and renovated housing, and there is more use of zero landscaping and drought tolerant plants which are more appropriate for the semi desert climate of LA. I, personally, continue to build on what I learned during the LA drought. We talk about energy and oil all the time on this thread but sometime near the end of this century, I strongly believe that the world will begin to experience shortages of clean, fresh water; that eventually the Great Lakes will be considered a resource as precious as gold or diamonds. Overall, conservation has to become a typical lifestyle..and its my belief that that will require a major shift in thinking in this country. ted