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To: mark silvers who wrote (32464)	2/6/2001 12:13:16 AM
From: O'Hara	Respond to of 39621

><>...Good evening Mark...><> Good to hear from you again...I trust all is well with you and your family. You asked: Do you really believe that you have to become contemptuous of yourself in order to grow spiritually? In that passage you posted by Kempis, is he using that phrase to actually say that one must hate themself, or does he mean something else? ___________ ___________ Ps 123:3 3 Have mercy upon us, O LORD, have mercy upon us: for we are exceedingly filled with contempt. But for the blood of Jesus Mark, I am but filthy rags! ________________ ________________ Hate is not at all the same as contempt....especially in the context which Mr. Kempis has used it. What Mr. Kempis is attempting to illustrate ...and he does so quite elegantly....by using the voice of Christ in order to provoke the reader to take inventory of oneself in relationship to authority. If a man/woman thinks himself to be too superior as to not answer willingly to the voice of authority, then he is not in harmony with his spirit. He then becomes his own worst enemy and the spirit within him becomes less able to commune with God in truth and sincerity. If we are not willing, because of pride and puffiness, to look men, who are our superiors... in the eye and willingly subject ourselves to them in obedience...then how will we ever subject ourselves to the will of God....whom we cannot see...or have ever laid eyes on?.....That is what the author is asking us to think about. When He, Christ our Saviour....God Himself in the flesh... willingly subjected Himself to ordinary man for the sake of us all....If He, God in the flesh, creator of all things, can humble Himself before men....what excuse have we mortals to think ourselves too high to humble ourselves to authority? Christ is our example, and if He can subject Himself to the will of man for our sake, then we ought to be able to subject ourselves willingly and lovingly..to the will of God! Jesus Said in speaking to His disciples: Luke 9:23 23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Have a good evening Mark Shalom...><>