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To: enervestor who wrote (2792)2/3/2001 1:09:40 PM
From: Biomaven  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 52153
 
enervestor,

I still own a little CBST (I sold part at higher levels) and think Ms. Wong is wrong (sorry about the pun).

From what I can tell, with the new dosing schedule the muscle tox does not seem to be a significant issue, at least based on what they have published to date.

one wonders why they’re still pursuing
daptomycin when Eli Lilly dropped it
years ago


From what I heard a year or so ago, Lilly was grumbling about making a mistake in giving up dapto.

CBST seems to be making a fuss in their presentations about dapto being bacteriocidal rather than bacteriostatic. I suppose this might offer the possibility of a quicker response, which could be significant in a life-threatening infection. I don't know enough to judge this issue, however.

The shorts pounced on CBST after a warning letter from the FDA a while back. However, the letter was from the FDA advertising police bureaucrats and IMO doesn't mean anything. (Going after a pre-approved product is unusual - usually these guys jump on you only after approval).

Here's a link to the FDA letter, and more informatively, some of the dapto poster presentations:

fda.gov
fda.gov
fda.gov

Unfortunately some of the poster presentations aren't reproduced too well and are hard to read. In particular the presentation about once-daily dosing to reduce toxicity was hard to make out.

Peter



To: enervestor who wrote (2792)2/3/2001 1:32:05 PM
From: rkrw  Respond to of 52153
 
<<Cubist is in question, because one
wonders why they’re still pursuing
daptomycin when Eli Lilly dropped it
years ago.>>

This is such a shortsighted and simplistic remark from Ms Wong.

LLY didn't give the cpd away either. I've heard LLY gets a heavy royalty on dapto sales.

Many ex-big pharma cpds have driven some opportunistic biotech companies to massive gains. TTP, CVTX, CBST, ITMN, AGPH, FRX. Celexa I believe was an ex-PFE cpd. PFE dropped it due to tox in beagles. Unless I'm confusing that with another big pharma blunder :-)



To: enervestor who wrote (2792)2/3/2001 6:32:40 PM
From: scaram(o)uche  Respond to of 52153
 
enervestor:

I've sort of moved away from a focus on anti-bacterials, so, no, I don't follow them. That said, I try to listen to their presentations and keep an eye open. My opinions continue to be favorable, but I can't comment from a "valuation" stand other than to say that downside risk seems to be substantial. I avoid one-product companies unless the capitalization has failure built into it. Yes, they're scrambling to look like something other than a one product company, but...... the pipe is early and poorly defined.

The license for "oral" ceftriaxone seems a bit strange. Is composition of matter not an issue? What's the plan for marketing against existing oral cephalosprins? I'd love to get excited about a potential biggie in the pipe, if appropriate.

Biowa was pounding the table over CBST at about $5/share, summer '99. It has retained more of its Winter '00 upside than most biotechs, which reflects a ton of analyst enthusiasm. I tend to avoid stocks that have attracted analyst attention (if positive). There's been both a ton of dilution and of appreciation since '99, and, you're correct...... I'm no longer contributing to the CBST thread. Wish them well, however.

Rick