To: ild who wrote (89179 ) 2/3/2001 4:29:38 PM From: Knighty Tin Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070 ild, In general, I don't think that bonds are very important for someone who has at least 10 years left of peak earnings years and a portfolio of less than $100,000. Bonds can be used as capital appreciation investments, but that is not their strong suit. The investor with the smaller portfolio needs to find someway to grow it faster than they can most of the time with bonds. Most folks you hear on tv will tell you that that way is long stocks. Agreed, long stocks are wonderful if they are selling at less than fair value. But when they are pricey, I don't think they are great growth vehicles and the last thing a small portfolio needs is losses. That is when I would try some of the hedging plays that have more upside than bonds, but much less downside than stocks: 90/10 option buying, spread conversions with stocks, conservative cross hedging. These would not be the same as similar strategies in Maximum Income as they would employ racier names and a bit more risk. But not nearly as much risk as long stocks. If stocks crash, then you want to have money available to buy them. How to play bonds for a smaller portfolio. The best way, IMHO, is usually through deeply discounted closed end funds. In govt. funds, I like GVT. In investment grade coporates, I like Transamerica Income (TAI) when it sells at a discount, though it is currently at a premium. Note that when I recommended it in the May 1995 edition of Kiplinger's Personal Finance that it was selling at a discount and I said, "this is a well managed fund that will be at a premium again sometime in the next five years." Damn, I was good back then. <VBG> In munis, I like most insured CEFs with reasonable fees. Since I don't love rates right now, I like the Blackrock 2008 and Florida 2008 the best for safety. Trading bonds on your own in a smaller portfolio is something of a mug's game. A round lot is usually $1,000,000 and if you don't buy a round lot, you get hammered on the price. Exceptions are new offerings, where the small guy pays the same price as the big guy. Too much! <g> The new offerings usually have a fat commish in them for pushing brokers. The bonds don't usually hold that price after the deal.