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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: TigerPaw who wrote (1606)2/5/2001 2:45:58 PM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
TP, I am not surprised. Bush lacks Mr. Clinton's knowledge and he cannot concentrate
on details the way Mr. Clinton could do.

There is a story that Mr. Clinton called a policy meeting on a Sunday morning. I forget what
it was about but the people who made the presentation were put out that they had to go
to the White House on Sunday morning, and while they made their presentation Mr. Clinton
worked on The NYTimes Sunday crossword. This went on for about 20 minutes b4 Mr.
Clinton looked up and asked a question that no one in the group had thought about! (g)

It is not a secret that Mr. Bush has never had an interest in what goes on around him.

"According to Democrats in the room, Bush stumbled as he answered the last of
a series of nine questions by House Democrats.

"He was boxed into a corner," said Rep. Allen Boyd, D-Florida. Others said the
president seemed uncomfortable, with one noting, "He turned bright red." "



To: TigerPaw who wrote (1606)2/5/2001 11:33:09 PM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Good take on recession:

February 4, 2001

The Mystery of Economic Recessions

By ROBERT J. SHILLER

N EW HAVEN — A great embarrassment for modern
macroeconomic theory is that it has never achieved any consensus
on the basic questions of what makes the stock market rise or fall and
what ultimately causes recessions.

Today, there is great debate over whether a recession is in the offing —
and if there is a recession, how long it will last. Already, signs of an
economic downturn are all around — a depressed stock market, layoffs
in several business sectors. That's why many Americans looked with
relief toward Alan Greenspan and the Federal Reserve Board, which last
week cut the benchmark interest rate by half a percentage point for the
second time in a month. But will the Fed's action prevent a recession? It's
difficult to tell.

Economists know what economic indicators correlate with recessions —
stock market declines often precede them, for example. And we know
that most movements in the stock market haven't made any
straightforward sense as a rational response to interest rates or to news
about future profits or dividends. But we have not been able to pinpoint
what ultimately causes recessions — probably because the causes are
psychological and thus intangible.


The renowned British economist A. C. Pigou wrote in 1929 that
psychological factors account for about half of fluctuations in industrial
production: he spoke of "psychological interdependence," "sympathetic
or epidemic excitement" and "mutual suggestion." His judgment seems
about as good today as in 1929 — and the factors he described are still
not easily measured.

Absent any scientific consensus about the ultimate source of economic
fluctuations, oversimplified theories abound. Today's example is the
popular theory that the Fed controls everything — that the raising or
lowering of interest rates alone causes the economy's ups and downs.
The record 14 percent one-day increase in the Nasdaq index on Jan. 3,
after the Federal Reserve Board made its first half-point cut in interest
rates this year, suggests how strongly some investors buy into this theory.

Of course, the Fed's management of interest rates does have an
important role in the way recessions play out, but it would appear
unlikely that anything the Fed actively chooses to do will actually disrupt
the economy. Something else is driving the periodic recessions.

A recession is generally related to a decline in confidence, a decline that
makes consumers less willing to spend and businesses less willing to
invest and to employ workers. Eventually we see layoffs and rises in
unemployment. The recent string of layoffs and the January decline in
manufacturing employment are ultimately due to a decline in confidence.


There are some efforts to measure confidence systematically, notably the
Consumer Confidence Index published by the Conference Board. It is
based on answers to just five survey questions, about respondents'
assessments of business and employment conditions, now and in six
months, and of the likely family income in six months. Surely many
respondents to these surveys are reflecting what they hear on the evening
news, rather than probing their inner psyches.

The index, as simple as it is, however, has been shown in a number of
studies to contain valuable information for forecasters. A decline in
confidence is a useful predictor that consumer spending will drop. And in
the past few months, the index has had its greatest decline since the
recession in 1990 and 1991. This suggests some trouble ahead.


Part of our confidence in the past few years has been an exaggerated
national faith in Alan Greenspan. This faith may have grown up in part
because of the success of the interest rate cuts that he undertook to
support the stock market just after the Oct. 19, 1987, crash. It may also
stem from the 1998 interest-rate cuts after the Long Term Capital
Management
debacle, in which the failure of a big hedge fund threatened
to cause a chain reaction of bankruptcies. Mr. Greenspan has come to
symbolize support for the new economy, and he is an essential part of the
current story.

But public confidence based on belief in the acumen of one 74-year-old
man cannot be secure. Many critics, in fact, are now going far in the
other direction, viewing Mr. Greenspan as the principal cause of the
current downturn because of the Fed's persistence in raising interest rates
until well into 2000.

Solid confidence is ultimately based on knowledge, on an understanding
of underlying mechanisms and a mental accounting of the reasons for
security. The problem today is that the economy is in such a cockeyed
and unusual situation that it is easy to imagine that confidence could soon
erode a great deal.

After 1982, the Nasdaq stock price index moved in a smooth upward
arc, rising at a higher and higher clip, until March of last year, and since
then it has fallen roughly in half — as classic a bubble-and-burst pattern
as there ever was.

Broader stock-price indexes have followed a similar, though less
dramatic, ascending arc since 1982, and real estate prices are also
inflated. There have been no bursts yet, but these situations, too, look so
much like bubbles that it is hard to imagine how confidence could be
secure going forward now.

So are we likely to have a recession?

Some factors suggest that we might. Our economic expansion of the past
10 years has been fueled by some trends that may not be sustainable.
One is a historic decline in the average rate of personal savings, from
more than 8 percent of income saved each year in 1991 to no saving at
all in December 2000 — in fact, to households' spending more a year
than their income. Another is high borrowing. The debt burden of the
average American household (especially mortgage debt) has risen to
record levels.

The problem for forecasters is that we are, by these measures, largely out
of the range of our historical experience. When we are out of range, past
examples cannot be reliable guides to the future.


Lacking an established theory of the ultimate causes of economic
fluctuations, forecasters tend to rely on simple extrapolation of trends or
on assumptions that past patterns will repeat themselves. But we are in a
moment when confidence and market psychology are changing fast.
Surprises — perhaps a serious recession — could be in store for us.

Robert J. Shiller is an economics professor at Yale and author of
"Irrational Exuberance."

nytimes.com



To: TigerPaw who wrote (1606)2/5/2001 11:38:43 PM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 

"But we have not been able to pinpoint what ultimately causes recessions — probably because the causes are
psychological and thus intangible."


TP, this past presidential election would not encourage consumers at home or abroad!
JMOP-Mephisto

Above excerpt from Profession Shiller's article

Robert J. Shiller is an economics professor at Yale and author of
"Irrational Exuberance."

nytimes.com