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To: maui_dude who wrote (126665)2/5/2001 3:23:35 PM
From: fingolfen  Respond to of 186894
 
Interesting article...

I agree that AMD made great strides in 2000, although much of their success came on the heels of some uncharacteristic Intel miscues. It seems that in the realm of the CPU duopololy, one company generally only has great success when the other goofs. Examples: AMD took the retail market by storm with the K6. Intel's first counterstroke was the weak cacheless Celeron. The second Celeron was much better, but was slow to take off until AMD hit a MHz wall with the K6-2 and K6-3... then the Celeron ate up the retail market. The K7 made the Katmai P3 look bad, but then the coppermine P3 achieved parity... but Intel mated the P3 to RAMBUS and PC-100 SDRAM missing PC-133 for critical months... so while the K7 ramp was initially excrutiatingly slow... Intel left the door open long enough for AMD to saunter through. Now it's a race for Intel to ramp up the P4 and get SSE optimization to be the standard as opposed to the exception...

I only have one major disagreement with the article cited: The 'hammer' series will not compete with the McKinley Itanium... that's like trying to make a K7 compete with an Alpha... two completely different beasts...



To: maui_dude who wrote (126665)2/5/2001 3:59:05 PM
From: Joseph Pareti  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
the interesting bit of electronicnews.com

is this :

The main challenges for AMD in 2001 relate more to marketing than technology. AMD is well established in the consumer PC market, but has yet to make headway in the commercial, workstation and server markets. The reason is a lack of multiprocessor support, despite the fact that the EV6 bus on which Athlon's bus is based is highly optimized for multiprocessor support. The first step to multiprocessor support is the 760MP dual-processor chipset, which AMD first demonstrated at the Microprocessor Forum 2000 in October. Unfortunately, systems using the 760MP will not ship until the second quarter.

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which, as Paul has demonstrated, are dead meat.



To: maui_dude who wrote (126665)2/5/2001 11:15:08 PM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Dude - Re: "The reason is a lack of multiprocessor support, despite the fact that the EV6 bus on which Athlon's bus is based is highly optimized for multiprocessor support. "

Yep - the EV6 bus is SO GREAT at MultiProcessing that AMD has ABANDONED IT for future SMP products - BEFORE EVER GETTING the FIRST EV6 product into production !!

EV6 - what a friggin' joke that BACKFIRED on AMD !!

Paul