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To: fingolfen who wrote (126819)	2/7/2001 1:15:28 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: the beta version of Whistler (in particular, what was used in the article) is most likely in fact using true software emulation and not the internal x86 Quite possibly they were. And why would they do such a thing? Well, keep in mind that Itanium/McKinley doesn't support 3 modes like hammer. Hammer can run 32, mixed 32/64, or pure 64. Itanium/McKinley runs only 32 or 64. Unless you are going to give up all possibility of using the 64 bit execution units of Itanium/McKinley (not a bad idea unless/until there is some software for it) it may be that you can't use the 32 bit hardware in Itanium/McKinley. Did you ever wonder why it would have been necessary to write and include in Microsoft's OS a software emulator for X86 when the chip supposedly has hardware to execute these instructions? That's quite a bit of pointless work for Microsoft to take on, unless the X86 unit on Itanium/McKinley hasn't worked to date and isn't expected to work for a long time - if ever. Dan

To: fingolfen who wrote (126819)	2/7/2001 2:39:11 PM
From: milo_morai	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Anandtech on Dual Athlon's anandtech.com Looking at the even bigger picture however, there is something that is due out shortly which will be able to make a very big impact on the market. As we mentioned throughout this review, there are situations in which our dual Pentium III 733 test bed offered performance greater than a single 1.2GHz Athlon. But imagine the performance advantage a pair of Athlons would be able to offer. The AMD 760MP chipset is still a few months away from mass production but don't be too surprised if you start hearing about it sooner than that. If dual Pentium IIIs can provide this kind of a performance increase, it's even scarier to think of what dual Athlons can do. The market may be in a slump right now, but with NV20, Palomino and AMD 760MP on the way, it's about to be upgrade season again. Gotta LUV IT!! Milo

To: fingolfen who wrote (126819)	2/7/2001 4:43:30 PM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 186894

fingolfen - re: "What really blows my mind is the double standard I so frequently see when it comes to AMD and Intel. AMD's DDR chipsets with the 266MHz bus have been an unmitigated disaster... but if you read Ace's this morning, it's only a "minor disappointment." If the 400MHz bus for the P4 only ran at 300MHz, the IT press would be calling for Intel's head and plastering it on page 1 daily, "Intel fails again!" Touche' - the Internet is filled with losers and they are all dying to see a loser (AMD) rise from the ashes and destroy Intel. So far - 32 years have passed and "it ain't happened " !!! Paul