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To: average joe who wrote (5094)	2/7/2001 3:55:29 PM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

<<If it was simply called legalized infanticide I would accept that as honest because that is exactly what it is. >> But that is not honest either. Abortion is not infanticide by any stretch of the imagination. Or by the dictionary: infanticide \Infan"ticide\, n. [L. infanticidium child murder; infans, -antis, child + caedere to kill: cf. F. infanticide. See Infant, and Homicide.] The murder of an infant born alive; the murder or killing of a newly born or young child; child murder.

To: average joe who wrote (5094)	2/7/2001 4:22:30 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Defining terms has always caused problems on SI, but I think most people would agree that infanticide is the killing of an infant already existing outside the womb. So legalized infanticide is NOT an accurate term. In none of the definitions of abortion or abort in the AHD is the word spontaneous found. IN fact, several of the definitions refer to an abortion as being caused by an outside agent. So I'm not sure what source you are using for your qualification of the term as "nouveau speak" or for your accusation that this is "dishonest". For that matter I'm not sure what is dishonest about it at all, but the use of infanticide is far more in error. I am not enough of a classics scholar or historian to know what word the Romans used for the abortions they performed, though I believe they did perform them. THe word for miscarry is 'abortus". You have sent me on a quest though; I love word origins. I'll let you know.