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To: Dave B who wrote (65636)	2/9/2001 5:18:14 AM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

Hi Dave B; Re: "Yes, but except for Dell, all the major vendors already deliver AMD-based products. Where's their DDR-based systems? This doesn't explain the lack of support. Why doesn't Gateway offer DDR systems using the 760? Or IBM? Or HP? They all use AMD chips, and IBM is a huge proponent of DDR. You'd think at least IBM would offer it in a system. Why aren't they on board three months after the launch?" Actually, the same thing happened when the Athlon first came out in the summer of '99. At first, it was only available from the screwdriver shops, just as DDR is now also only available from small players. You must have forgotten your recent Athlon history, so here are some reminders: AMD first shipped the Athlon in June 1999: AMD SHIPS THE WORLD'S FASTEST x86 MICROPROCESSOR www1.amd.com Rumors that Gateway would ship Athlons started in November 1999: This company is dead money. They let Intel jerk them around with the Floppermine. Now they are paying for their mistakes. At least they will fill some holes with the Athlon or so the rumors go...#reply-12183076 also #reply-12079946 amd.com Hewlett Packard was even later with the Athlon: HP quietly adopts AMD's Athlon chip January 18, 2000 Since the beginning of the month, HP has been selling Athlon-based Pavillion PCs in Sam's Clubs and Costco stores, an HP spokesman confirmed. HP is expected to start selling them on its Web site by late February or early March, sources have said. Although wider distribution is likely, the decision to sell the Athlon systems online may not yet be final, the spokesman said. With HP adopting the chip, AMD has now convinced four out of the top five PC makers to manufacture Athlon consumer systems. Dell remains the holdout. Gateway said it would start using Athlon chips earlier this month, after deciding to not release an Athlon PC last year. #reply-12605623 In other words, then as now, AMD systems were available from the small players long before they were available from the big guys. And DDR involves more part changes, so it is likely that the big guys will be even more delayed with DDR than they were with the Athlon. -- Carl